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Spark

Global Moderator
right so 300ish which is what they were on track for the whole time anyway. maybe a bit more whilst kallis and smith were going.

not expecting us to win but hopefully we've made a good fist of it when i wake up.
 

Jayzamann

International Regular
50 less than what we thought they were in for at an early stage.

Well rounded batting effort, four individuals getting over 50.
 

Cabinet96

Hall of Fame Member
geez, they didn't celebrate that at all.
Don't think they were sure if it was a no ball or not. Smith wanted to make sure that they couldn't get a run while they were celebrating if it was a no ball. That's just what I'm guessing.

Anyway South Africa would've taken that after the first ball of the day.
 
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akilana

International 12th Man
Form a year after Warne and McGrath retired doesn't excuse being absolutely awful against them both over the course of a decade. Lara and Tendulkar both had success against McWarne and Ponting never played them (but had success against the great South African attacks against which Kallis never played).

Like I said, Kallis is a notch below the top rung with the bat. That's nothing to be ashamed of, just as Mark Waugh should be proud of what he accomplished in tests, even if he wasn't as good as Steve Waugh.
He wasn't absolute awful against McWarne.. He was averaging 45 in Australia when SA were getting beaten repeatedly. It's his average against them in SA which is awful but SA was/is the place where good bowlers thrive.. If you look at statistics for SA batsmen, most of their batsmen average higher away from home..

Donald and Pollock were great but their attack weren't that great because they had two fill-in bowlers and as an attack failed against Australia for more than a decade. Anybody who wore baggy cap would have scored runs because Australia had wood on them for a long time. Even Martyn was successful against SA attack.. woulndn't call him a better batsman than Kallis.

Btw, I don't know why you picked England and SL in your that you made earlier as teams with great bowlers.. SL had Murali only but Kallis hasn't played them for a decade(?).. and England hardly had great bowlers.. He was very successful against Pakistan, WI and India.. He was also very good against the England attack that conquered Australia in 2005.

edit : If you disagree, it's fine. Will continue another time.. gtg
 
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