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*Official* England in India

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah no idea why we are playing this series.

Delighted Jimmy is being rested, no point in him playing ODI's in India at this stage of his career.

Meaker a stupid selection but they like getting young players in and around the squad.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
England selectors need to cut the crap about resting players. After this series they aren't playing again till the new year so why would he need resting. If he's injured just say he's injured. They did the same thing with Pieterson and I reckon if Morgan was still around Pieterson wouldn't be in the squad now.

Bit surprised with Meaker's selection considering his relatively poor List A record but hopefully if he can reverse swing the ball he'll be effective.
Anderson's been playing non-stop cricket for about a year, he needs and deserves a bit of time off.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
England selectors need to cut the crap about resting players. After this series they aren't playing again till the new year so why would he need resting.
No, England need to cut the crap about playing endless pointless matches leaving supporters numbed and players drained, burnt out and perennially separated from their homes and families. Until that happens, a policy of resting key players is essential.


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Furball

Evil Scotsman
No, England need to cut the crap about playing endless pointless matches leaving supporters numbed and players drained, burnt out and perennially separated from their homes and families. Until that happens, a policy of resting key players is essential.


Edit: a rogue smiley has attached itself this post and I've no
idea how to get rid.
This series is 3 weeks and the players will have November and December off for the first time in years.
 

Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
Can someone explain this whole concept of ODI warm-up matches? I swear it's like the first time I've seen this happen so consistently. India had like what 3 warm up games for ODI's in England? And how Eng also have 2 ODI warm ups, I mean really? One at best, and even that should only be for a really rare tour, one that doesn't come often.

Anyways, we better play Varun Aaron in this series, can't believe we didn't play him in the recently concluded series.
 

nsniks

State Vice-Captain
Team announced

Squad: MS Dhoni (capt & wk), Gautam Gambhir, Parthiv Patel, Ajinkya Rahane, Virat Kohli, Suresh Raina, Ravindra Jadeja, R Ashwin, Varun Aaron, Umesh Yadav, Vinay Kumar, S Aravind, Rahul Sharma, Manoj Tiwary, Praveen Kumar.

Bowling attack is inexperienced. Would have included Nehra in place of Aravind
 

CricAddict

Cricketer Of The Year
Team announced

Squad: MS Dhoni (capt & wk), Gautam Gambhir, Parthiv Patel, Ajinkya Rahane, Virat Kohli, Suresh Raina, Ravindra Jadeja, R Ashwin, Varun Aaron, Umesh Yadav, Vinay Kumar, S Aravind, Rahul Sharma, Manoj Tiwary, Praveen Kumar.

Bowling attack is inexperienced. Would have included Nehra in place of Aravind
Aravind :wub:
Having high hopes on this guy..Not so much on Rahul Sharma tbh

My team: Gambhir, Rahane, Kohli, Tiwary, Dhoni, Raina, Jadeja, Ashwin, Praveen, Aaron, Aravind

Feel that there are too many bowlers in the team..
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
No Tendulkar, Sehwag or Zaheer still, and only really Gambhir returning for Dravid. Beginning to have second thoughts about this series - if we only had Morgan going I might have us favourites.

Someone to tell me a bit about Yadav, Aravind and Rahul Sharma please?
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Like Harbhajan being dropped and also like the selections of Rahul Sharma and Sreenath Aravind.

Nehra seems to be done this time, unless the new bowlers fail miserably with his injury record and with him not playing tests.Dhoni and specially Raina haven't had a rest for a long time now too.

And also don't know why Sachin doesn't just retire from ODI's now if he is not going to play them, in any case.
 
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Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
No Sehwag.
Just shows how HapHazard and stupid his selection for England was.

For all the criticism he got, he was clearly not fit, and him not being able to throw and then miss 2 series back to back due to his shoulder confirms that.

Someone to tell me a bit about Yadav, Aravind and Rahul Sharma please?
Umesh Yadav - Don't rate him that much. Slightly nippy and quicker than the average Indian bowler(can reach 140 K/H sometimes), but hardly moves the ball and not much variation.

Rahul Sharma - Have really only seen him in the IPL, but was pretty impressive there and is a bit of a Kumble like Leg spinner who doesn't turn the ball much but is accurate and has slight variations, which make him hard to get away.

Sreenath Aravind - Young Left Arm fast bowler, who is slightly sharpish and can swing the bowl into the batsman and is impressive when it's his day. Has a good attitude too and can Vary his pace.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
Squad: MS Dhoni (capt & wk), Gautam Gambhir, Parthiv Patel, Ajinkya Rahane, Virat Kohli, Suresh Raina, Ravindra Jadeja, R Ashwin, Varun Aaron, Umesh Yadav, Vinay Kumar, S Aravind, Rahul Sharma, Manoj Tiwary, Praveen Kumar.
Parthiv and Rahane did well in England. Good luck to them. Jadeja should be in and around the set up, at all times so good to see him there. **** knows where Yusuf Pathan is, he is an extremely dangerous batsman in Indian conditions. He is slightly out of form, but that won't stop him hitting a match winning century every so often and always contributing a few overs with the ball. Him and Jadeja should always be competing for that number seven role.

Aaron rightfully retains his place. He looks raw to me, but so did a young Brett Lee. His pace has been overblown, but do not be surprised to see him occasionally topping 145kph. He is very skiddy. I'd compare him to a slightly more raw, slightly more skiddy version of Meaker. Yadav, on the other hand, has no place in any Indian ODI squad. The guy had three chances and did abysmally at ODI level. At List A, he has 18 wickets at 41.61. I say it time and again, if this guy cannot get out Ranji OD batsmen, he has no chance of picking up ODI wickets with any consistency. Adrenaline might get him through a good ODI or two, but he will be found out. There is not a single ODI standard quick bowler who would average more than 30 at Indian domestic OD cricket, imo.

Vinay Kumar retains his place. Disappointed to see him play so poor in England. Do not expect him to last long. Aravind is an interesting one. His record is good at List A, with 28 wickets at 22.10 (4.23). His T20 record is good, with 37 wickets at 18.02 (7.28). He has beautiful variations, but the issue is a lack of speed, which can prove pretty fatal in ODI cricket. He bowls around 120-125kph which means England might just be able to counter him by charging him. This has not been an issue in the IPL but perhaps in ODI cricket where batsmen can be more measured, it will be a problem. Earned a shot though and good to see the selectors going with someone with a good record.

As for Sharma, well, he is an interesting one. England tend to struggle against good spin in ODI cricket. He seems a slightly unusual spinner with a pretty lanky frame and tall action. Certainly not in the Warne mould which has affected the likes of Kaneria, Smith and Rashid, to name just a few. However, with such a strong IPL performance and a List A performance of 25 wickets at 18.56 (4.28), I will never argue with his selection based on things so subjective as bowling action.
 
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Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, the exclusion of Yusuf Pathan for the last 2 series has been strange. Him ahead of Jadeja in India for me.
 

Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah, the exclusion of Yusuf Pathan for the last 2 series has been strange. Him ahead of Jadeja in India for me.
It is a close one. Both should always be in the squad. Jadeja has an outside bet for the number eight slot and Yusuf for the number six slot so there is no reason to ever drop either from the squad.
 

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