Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
They both > Sreesanth, imo. Perera bowled some good spells of sustained accuracy and Maharoof is a good county standard seamer.
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*Official* Third Test at Edgbaston
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superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
Roofie ****s all over Sreesanth in ODIs though. He's decent in LO and ****e in tests. Sree is mildly less ****e in tests and ****ey mc****e in LO
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Currently you'd have to say it'd be Shahzad, who's not having a great season.
What's he? Seventh? Current 3, Tremmers, Finn, Onions? Maybe eighth behind Dernbach now?
tooextracool
International Coach
Not sure why its so hilarious to be honest. The thread was created before the start of the series, and there is not much doubt that before this series Broad, given the way hes bowled over his entire career, would not have made very many teams in the world. Lets be honest here, there is simply no precedent for him bowling the way he has this series. He's never managed to string 2 consistent games together all his life and here he is bowling like McGrath for 3 games in a row.
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GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
At this level sure, but prior to the Sri Lanka series he bowled a few levels above Ishant and Sree's level for a good twelve months or so.
What's new here is Broad's sustained excellence. He hasn't done anything we didn't already know he could do.
smash84
The Tiger King
This
tooextracool
International Coach
Maybe, but Id be hard pressed to find a conclusive argument for Broad over Ishant before this series especially when you consider Ishant's most recent bowling performance coming into the series. Say what you want about the quality of batting in the WI, but we've seen some shockingly dumb bowling from Broad (especially against SL) over the recent past.
However, hes stepped up in this series, and looks like he could become a genuinely dangerous bowler in all conditions given his natural attributes and skillset if he can sustain the same level of performance. Makes him a more consistent threat than someone like Anderson IMO.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
TBF, that thread was made before Ishan't brief disguise as a decent bowler in the Windies. That aside, I mostly agree with your post. Have often wondered when Broad is bowling short stuff whether he does it through choice or instruction.
If this series is a sign of things to come, then I am excited tstl
If this series is a sign of things to come, then I am excited tstl
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
juz think India are gonna pull back level tomm.. Not really sure why.. Maybe it is because Dhoni scored runs..
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
The way Ishant is bowling is the same as he bowled against West Indies. He is just bowling to better batsmen here.
Jacknife
International Captain
Tbf to Broad he was having trouble in the SL series because of a lack of bowling down to him having back to back serious injuries and people were quick to jump on him for it.
Really he shouldn't have played against SL at all and found his form etc for Notts, anyway it looks like it turned out well in the end.
superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
Only got to see England's batting towards the end, was the pitch really doing a lot today. Bresnan said in his after play interview that it wasn't doing that much but Fletcher has been bemoaning the fact that he's never seen three test match in a row with as much as swing as we have seen this series...and bemoaning losing the toss as well.
Burgey
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Fletcher is in the Greg Chappell class of ****headedry though. They won the past two tosses ffs.
It swung a bit but hardly around corners. The pitch was even paced too. England bowled well, India was inept.
Howe_zat
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So, awesomesauce, no? Stuff I saw today:
The good:
Our B & B. Neither owned it for any real length of time. Just consistently high-standard bowling - with the minor exception of that period in the afternoon, where lengths went a bit haywire. So when the Indians put in a half-decent looking but bizarrely impatient effort with the bat, they didn't get away with it. Half a dozen times in a row. And that's the batting order gone.
Strauss. Keep out the good, tonk the bad. Back to basics, eh skip? Ftr I didn't have a problem with not attacking Dhoni and giving the single. Maybe not what I'd have done, but I see the point. And what exactly do you lose by given a single to a man who doesn't want one? We were let down by a mishap in the bowling for an hour there.
Dhoni. An innings that reminded me of Colly - not the match-saving nail-chewers, though Dhoni did drag his team out of the mire, but for the versatility, shepherding of the tail, and pure scrappiness. And he backed himself to clear the ropes when he needed to, because he can. Good to see. And of course, it was only a 70-odd, so no one'll care in a few years.
The bad:
India's top six. There were really no demons in this wicket or anything to worry about. Strauss just felt like another go at your batting, and you proved him right. Muppets. Oh and especially Suresh Raina. Evidence is piling up.
Indian fielding. The bowling on the whole wasn't actually that bad, there were a few chances, several maidens, bits of pressure. Sreesanth was probably the only one to have had a genuine bad day. What really struck me was the fielding. I'd describe it as effortless, in a bad way.
The ugly:
That utterly ridiculous period in the afternoon when Dhoni and Praveen were batting. Ugly looking batsmen playing ugly looking shots to ugly short pitched bowling. All while certain (usually somewhat ugly) members of one's society are trying to get past with an ugly beer snake because there's a lack of intensity in the match and their attention span is smaller than the average gnat's winkle.
The good:
Our B & B. Neither owned it for any real length of time. Just consistently high-standard bowling - with the minor exception of that period in the afternoon, where lengths went a bit haywire. So when the Indians put in a half-decent looking but bizarrely impatient effort with the bat, they didn't get away with it. Half a dozen times in a row. And that's the batting order gone.
Strauss. Keep out the good, tonk the bad. Back to basics, eh skip? Ftr I didn't have a problem with not attacking Dhoni and giving the single. Maybe not what I'd have done, but I see the point. And what exactly do you lose by given a single to a man who doesn't want one? We were let down by a mishap in the bowling for an hour there.
Dhoni. An innings that reminded me of Colly - not the match-saving nail-chewers, though Dhoni did drag his team out of the mire, but for the versatility, shepherding of the tail, and pure scrappiness. And he backed himself to clear the ropes when he needed to, because he can. Good to see. And of course, it was only a 70-odd, so no one'll care in a few years.
The bad:
India's top six. There were really no demons in this wicket or anything to worry about. Strauss just felt like another go at your batting, and you proved him right. Muppets. Oh and especially Suresh Raina. Evidence is piling up.
Indian fielding. The bowling on the whole wasn't actually that bad, there were a few chances, several maidens, bits of pressure. Sreesanth was probably the only one to have had a genuine bad day. What really struck me was the fielding. I'd describe it as effortless, in a bad way.
The ugly:
That utterly ridiculous period in the afternoon when Dhoni and Praveen were batting. Ugly looking batsmen playing ugly looking shots to ugly short pitched bowling. All while certain (usually somewhat ugly) members of one's society are trying to get past with an ugly beer snake because there's a lack of intensity in the match and their attention span is smaller than the average gnat's winkle.
Woodster
International Captain
England's bowling on the whole was typically disciplined, consistent and threatening. There was a period when Gambhir and Dravid began setting out their stall, yet with the self-belief this unit have, they just persisted in good areas not trying too much to force the breakthrough, and Bres delivered getting Gambhir to inside edge onto his stumps.
The ball Bres got Dravid with was a beauty, unfortunately he lost his line a little in the afternoon session but another four wickets and sterling effort from him.
Credit to Dhoni who looked much more like the dangerous number seven batsmen we all know he can be. The top six, arguably the strongest top six they can field (apart from perhaps Raina), disappointed, it did do a little through the air but conditions were far from unplayable and for a line-up of this quality to be skittled for 224 was a poor effort really, despite some lower order resistance, of which the tactics used during the Dhoni-Kumar partnership is a debate for another post.
Once we'd done the hard work, Strauss and Cook ensured it was another dominant day. Pleased for Strauss to get to fifty for the first time since Sydney.
The ball Bres got Dravid with was a beauty, unfortunately he lost his line a little in the afternoon session but another four wickets and sterling effort from him.
Credit to Dhoni who looked much more like the dangerous number seven batsmen we all know he can be. The top six, arguably the strongest top six they can field (apart from perhaps Raina), disappointed, it did do a little through the air but conditions were far from unplayable and for a line-up of this quality to be skittled for 224 was a poor effort really, despite some lower order resistance, of which the tactics used during the Dhoni-Kumar partnership is a debate for another post.
Once we'd done the hard work, Strauss and Cook ensured it was another dominant day. Pleased for Strauss to get to fifty for the first time since Sydney.