Spark
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In form? Did you see Hayden and Hussey that summer? Not to mention the lack of anything useful from #6.
The difference between the actual quality of bowling between Anderson and Steyn down here is not very large.
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*Official* Second Test at Trent Bridge
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The difference between the actual quality of bowling between Anderson and Steyn down here is not very large.
flibbertyjibber
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Not surprised, it was a hell of a blow he took.
If he is out then Yuvraj in at 6 and the rest shuffle up 1 i presume
centurymaker
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the only difference is that bresnan is more of a swing bowler.
superkingdave
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In favour of the super-tail tbh. Pretty confident Bres would do better than Finn bowling anyway and he is in good form.
Cevno
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Many averaged less.
As many is a moot point because except for Bishop who did better than Anderson (in the same series as Ambrose) others did not play 5 matches.
Gough took 20 in 3 @ 21.25 in 1994/95 compared to Anderson taking 24 in 5 @ 26.04
Steyn took 18 in 3 @ 26.16 with a better strike rate by 10.
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superkingdave
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And Trent Bridge is probably the best ground in the country for swing bowling
Cevno
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Yep.
Dravid will open most likely and probably Laxman will come in at 3 with Sachin remaining at 4.
centurymaker
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i can't recall anderson swinging the ball much in aus. plus he obviously wasn't that quick either. (comparing him to steyn) .
so quality goes to steyn.
hussey had done well in the previous series.. ponting was doing reasonably well. clarke was awesome around that time.
Hayden was out of form though.
aus were clearly the favourites going into the series. if duminy hadn't produced a gem in the 2nd test, aus would not have lost a home series for the first time in a decade.
hazsa19
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it only needs to swing an inch to take an edge. Anderson vs Clarke 2nd dig at Sydney was almost taking the piss.
centurymaker
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english fans have a tendency to go over the top with their players' success.
statistically tremlett did better than him too. 17 wickets in just 3 games... at 23
steyn's strike rate was 43 (has career strike of 40). another reason why he's easily the best bowler around. won't find a more destructive bowler than him in history of cricket. (a bowler with a better sr)
marc71178
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Irony intended one presumes?
Spark
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He swung the ball at times, but that was the thing - he didn't need to swing it around corners to take wickets. That's what made it such an impressive performance. He could choke batsmen, he could nip them out with swing and his spell of reverse at Sydney was the best (reverse) I've seen on these shores in a very long time. He was absolutely outstanding. As was Steyn, but he was guilty of wasting the new ball at times by bowling too wide to the lefties. Speed does not automatically make one better
Hussey wouldn't have been able to tell you what suburb his off stump was around that time, he was that out of it.
And maybe if Clarke had not fallen to KP three balls before the close on Day 4 Adelaide and gone on to play the match saving ton he was on the way to doing (IMO), then the series might have run on a very different course. Completely irrelevant, however, as that's how it panned out.
The stats Cevno posted are very indicative - the difference between the averages is negligible. Not too dissimilar to the quality in their bowling performances as they were, tbh.
Anyway this is way off track.
centurymaker
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he was talking about quality!
centurymaker
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that would be awesome.
well may not
laxman is quite poor against the moving ball early on in his innings
weldone
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Is Sachin fit to play? I think so.
Is Gambhir fit to play? I guess so.
Is Tremlett fit to play? I guess there's more than 50% chance of playing as of now.
Is Zaheer fit to play? I guess there's less than 50% chance of playing as of now.
Guys, correct me if my answers seem wrong atm.
Any recent updates on the fitness of these 4 players/any new casualties?
Is Gambhir fit to play? I guess so.
Is Tremlett fit to play? I guess there's more than 50% chance of playing as of now.
Is Zaheer fit to play? I guess there's less than 50% chance of playing as of now.
Guys, correct me if my answers seem wrong atm.
Any recent updates on the fitness of these 4 players/any new casualties?
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hazsa19
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you've lost me
centurymaker
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fixed