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ICC Greatest Test Team

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Tbf, he was really weirdly dropped from the test team based on his ODI form for some reason. He wasn't too bad in the longer form but was having a real bad run in the ODI's.
 

gvenkat

State Captain
Sehwag is among the best players,if not the best i have seen on wickets where the ball is spinning and there is real uneven bounce something like the pitch in the first test against the West Indies.

On such pitches even the best of batsman against qualtiy pacers on seaming tracks can struggle to deal with bite, bowl crawling on the floor,turn etc against even lesser quality bowlers....
Playing quality pacers in swinging conditions is as or less tough than playing on such pitches. Playing pacers on swinging or bouncy track is not the be all and end all.
Good post
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
He was dropped from the playing eleven mid-series against South Africa, then he was left out of the entire squad for the tour of England, wasn't he?
O yeah, forgot about the England tour...

Remember him being dropped from the playing eleven mid-series against South Africa. And was it Murali Karthik who came in as an opener in Sehwag's place? (if my memory serves me right)
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Which series was this.. Seems a long time ago now..
Back in 2007. He was dropped for Dinesh Karthik, who was used as an opener pretty successfully throughout the end of tour of South Africa and the tour of England, along with opening partner Wasim Jaffer. He was recalled to the squad for the tour of Australia but wasn't even selected right away there - the Jaffer/Dravid opening partnership was preferred so Yuvraj could play.

It seems weird that he could climb from below the likes of Karthik, Jaffer and Yuvraj in the pecking order to All Time World XI candidate in just four years. :p His original dropping was always pretty harsh though, even though I agreed with it at the time - he looked truly, truly clueless against SA.
 

gvenkat

State Captain
O yeah, forgot about the England tour...

Remember him being dropped from the playing eleven mid-series against South Africa. And was it Murali Karthik who came in as an opener in Sehwag's place? (if my memory serves me right)
Dinesh Karthik? Not Murali Karthik
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
Tbf, he was really weirdly dropped from the test team based on his ODI form for some reason. He wasn't too bad in the longer form but was having a real bad run in the ODI's.
Was he rightly dropped from the test team? - probably no.

Has that decision (to drop him from the test team) yielded good results in the long run? - definitely yes
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
O yeah, forgot about the England tour...

Remember him being dropped from the playing eleven mid-series against South Africa. And was it Murali Karthik who came in as an opener in Sehwag's place? (if my memory serves me right)
Dinesh Karthik. Dropping him for Murali Kartik would've been pretty harsh... :p
 

gvenkat

State Captain
Back in 2007. He was dropped for Dinesh Karthik, who was used as an opener pretty successfully throughout the end of tour of South Africa and the tour of England, along with opening partner Wasim Jaffer. He was recalled to the squad for the tour of Australia but wasn't even selected right away there - the Jaffer/Dravid opening partnership was preferred so Yuvraj could play.

It seems weird that he could climb from below the likes of Karthik, Jaffer and Yuvraj in the pecking order to All Time World XI candidate in just four years. :p His original dropping was always pretty harsh though, even though I agreed with it at the time - he looked truly, truly clueless against SA.
Gotcha. Thanks. I believe this was the SA series before the 2007 WC
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
He was dropped from the playing eleven mid-series against South Africa, then he was left out of the entire squad for the tour of England, wasn't he?
Yep.

Both Sehwag and Harbhajan were dropped for that England tour. But in Sehwag's case it was more due to his ODI form weirdly than his test form.

He played all the 3 matches in South Africa though, was only shifted down the order for one match IIRC.
After that he then wasn't picked for the tour to Bangladesh, and also England. What's more is that stupidly they also decided not to play him against Pakistan at home .
 
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weldone

Hall of Fame Member
It seems weird that he could climb from below the likes of Karthik, Jaffer and Yuvraj in the pecking order to All Time World XI candidate in just four years. :p His original dropping was always pretty harsh though, even though I agreed with it at the time - he looked truly, truly clueless against SA.
Dropping Sehwag for Jaffer, Karthik or Yuvraj really feels amusing when I think of it today.

But yeah, back in that time I too remember agreeing with that decision - not because he had a long off-form, but because he looked absolutely clueless for the short time he was out of form in test cricket....
 

Bun

Banned
i agree. but that was an individual's team and you expect it to reflect his preferences.

but a team like this one put together with the ICC's approval is supposed to be represent the opinion of cricket lovers from around the globe. one group hijacking it with sheer numbers is sad. inevitable, but sad. it speaks more of modern indian fans' lack of cricketing knowledge than anything else.

i am actually pleasantly surprised that gilly managed to sneak into the final XI somehow. i can bet my house dhoni got more than 80% of the votes gilly got.
Prine EWS I cud use sum help here
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Was he rightly dropped from the test team? - probably no.

Has that decision (to drop him from the test team) yielded good results in the long run? - definitely yes
How?

It was a just by fluke he was selected for the Australia tour , because he had lost some confidence by then and started to have some troubles in his mind.
Remember his selection to the Australia tour coming as a shock, because Kumble had insisted on it after becoming captain for a few series till then but the selectors didn't approve until then(WAG!) .

Jaffer then failed there and Dravid looked really bad and the rest is history.....

Not only could have that move messed up Sehwag badly at the time ,dropping him and asking Dravid to open ruined him too(though he had started opening from before Under Chappell for a while on and off).
 
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weldone

Hall of Fame Member
His legside game changed massively after getting dropped.

I still remember watching Sehwag play some legside flicks in the 2007 WC and after and I was so surprised that I had to see the scorecard to check if I was watching Tendulkar!

He was always suspect for LBW against the incoming ball before 2007. But nowadays bowl him in the legs and he'll flick it as if he's playing in his backyard.

Does anybody remember the Umar Gul over in the 2011 WC quarter final where he hit 5 boundaries each on the legside? That was completely unimaginable with Sehwag pre-2007.
 
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