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Does Kevin Pietersen deserve the axe in ODIs?
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Spark
Global Moderator
Based on what, though? He got one fifty in the 7* match series, and one 50 in the WC. Only once did he come even close to batting through 'til the death overs.
*7, not 70. Although it must have felt that way for the English
Jacknife
International Captain
I was talking in a general cricketing sense because he was out of form in test cricket as well.Based on what, though? He got one fifty in the 7* match series, and one 50 in the WC. Only once did he come even close to batting through 'til the death overs.
*7, not 70. Although it must have felt that way for the English
Jacknife
International Captain
It's who I'd replace Bell with tbh.
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I think for now, the sensible move would be to drop Bell first, who isn't scoring too many runs either, and looks less of a natural at ODI cricket than Pietersen. But England should definitely look long-term and give some of their younger batsmen a decent run in these kinds of series.
weeman27bob
International Vice-Captain
Bring back Tresco really.
Jacknife
International Captain
Come on mate, Cook's only just started.
weeman27bob
International Vice-Captain
Come on mate, Cook's only just started.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
We do have other options, none of whom are named Ravinder Bopara. Taylor and Buttler have both been mentioned (Jos not in prime nick just now, actually) and we also have this strapping young fella. Averages nearly 40 at over a run a ball.
Whether KP is the right man to cut is more debateable tho.
Whether KP is the right man to cut is more debateable tho.
MW1304
Cricketer Of The Year
Nah I wouldn't pick Hayden Christensen yet.
Absolutely no way would I drop Pietersen now. A couple of low scores but he looks in prime nick, can see a score coming later in the series (hoping tbh). If he has a poor series and starts poorly against India, only then would I consider because he would be wasting good form. Also we have noone else in that role to replace him. Taylor isn't the free-est scoring boundary hitter in the world - would rather see him trialled at 3 when Trott is 'rested' - but he rotates the strike well. The only person I can think of is Stokes and he's injured. Buttler's not ready and Hales should open.
Absolutely no way would I drop Pietersen now. A couple of low scores but he looks in prime nick, can see a score coming later in the series (hoping tbh). If he has a poor series and starts poorly against India, only then would I consider because he would be wasting good form. Also we have noone else in that role to replace him. Taylor isn't the free-est scoring boundary hitter in the world - would rather see him trialled at 3 when Trott is 'rested' - but he rotates the strike well. The only person I can think of is Stokes and he's injured. Buttler's not ready and Hales should open.
G.I.Joe
International Coach
That would mean the ICC's recent ruling on runners affects #4's primarily. It would then make sense for teams to play their fittest player at #4.
MW1304
Cricketer Of The Year
Whether its the role of what you consider a no.4 to be or not isn't really the point. You don't see KP massively rotating the strike - he tends to look for boundaries and to get the scoring rate lifting as much as possible. Having Cook, Trott and Taylor in the top 4 of an ODI team isn't particularly inviting - not knocking the lad, but it could put a lot of pressure on him to hit boundaries too often. At 3 he could play a consolidation role as Trott would, score a lot of runs as Trott would, and hopefully rotate the strike better than Trott would.
Jacknife
International Captain
Yes, agree with that and even though there's a lot of hype around Stokes, he could do with playing for the Lions a bit more before being called up so quickly, he's only just turned 20 and has only played 19 List A, games averaging 31, so I don't think Stokes is a replacement for KP. He's player I'd like gradually brought in but I think, it would be a bit unfair, on a few of these young guys, with so little experience, chucking them in, to be the new KP.
