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Australian Domestic Offseason 2011

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
The signing of Mark Cameron is a massive boost for Western Australia. Any further information on why he chose to switch states? If fit he was already in the NSW XI, and Western Australia are only giving him a one year deal.

The other signings are massive too. Rimmington and Birt both needed a change of states.
I guess the move could guarantee him a spot in the state XI, given competition will be huge in the NSW squad and, in all likelihood, Hazelwood, Starc and Cummins are more likely to be picked.

By the same token, he could lead the WA attack vs being the 2nd or 3rd NSW seamer.
 

SamSawnoff

U19 Vice-Captain
The signing of Mark Cameron is a massive boost for Western Australia. Any further information on why he chose to switch states? If fit he was already in the NSW XI, and Western Australia are only giving him a one year deal.

The other signings are massive too. Rimmington and Birt both needed a change of states.
You sure he'd be in the first 11? Looks like CA don't want Bolly anymore and also they might be leaning on NSW to play all their youngsters.
 

Andre

International Regular
You sure he'd be in the first 11? Looks like CA don't want Bolly anymore and also they might be leaning on NSW to play all their youngsters.
Might be due to $$$. Katich back on the books, plus Starc would have got a pretty significant pay rise as well as some others, and with the limited pool of cash for FC cricketer he'd probably have been ranked higher in WA than NSW. Could be a length of contract thing too; he has a hard time staying on the park for any period of time, WA might have offered him security with a 2 or 3 year deal, maybe NSW only offered 1.

Gotta wonder if Cricket NSW would be a bit dirty, have looked after him ok considering his injury record.
 
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Spikey

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Given how Micky went on about the contracts my mind went to money playing a part too. Doubt Cameron would have made much from a t20 contract
 

SamSawnoff

U19 Vice-Captain
Might be due to $$$. Katich back on the books, plus Starc would have got a pretty significant pay rise as well as some others, and with the limited pool of cash for FC cricketer he'd probably have been ranked higher in WA than NSW. Could be a length of contract thing too; he has a hard time staying on the park for any period of time, WA might have offered him security with a 2 or 3 year deal, maybe NSW only offered 1.

Gotta wonder if Cricket NSW would be a bit dirty, have looked after him ok considering his injury record.

Apparently he's only got a one year deal with WA.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Cummins will play as much of the season as he can IMO, due to CA pressure at a minimum (and plus he can bowl). I'm not sure we'll see Doug at int'l level much any more which is sad. Copeland is surely a lock. That might not leave too much room in the pace dept, esp. with other young'uns like Hazelwood and Starc around.
 

Spikey

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I dunno know. I don't think NSW will bow to the CA pressure too much. In any case they can counter with "well we playing a 20yo who has played ODI's instead of Cummins" when they play Strac/Haze
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Cameron a great get for WA. If he can stay fit I fully expect him to become the 2nd best quick in the country behind R Harris.

Bit suprised with Tassie going for Bird from NSW. Having played a bit with him and against him he's looked a good first grader but hasn't really looked like kicking on from there. Haven't seen him bowl for a few seasons now though but he might be a yard short of pace for Shield cricket. Will be interesting to see, similar sort of gamble to the Matt Day one which didn't come off.
Played with Bird quite a bit as a youngster, and he got stuck at a good club for a long time behind some very good bowlers, so didn't get the early first grade poles that other guys did. He dominated junior ranks, has a good size about him and I think he bowls just quick enough to do the business, especially at the WACA where you don't need to be full on rapid, because the deck can do the work for you.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Bit suprised with Tassie going for Bird from NSW. Having played a bit with him and against him he's looked a good first grader but hasn't really looked like kicking on from there. Haven't seen him bowl for a few seasons now though but he might be a yard short of pace for Shield cricket. Will be interesting to see, similar sort of gamble to the Matt Day one which didn't come off.
Yeah, AWTA. To be fair it worked with Adam Maher though (or has so far anyway) and he's a similar bowler as well.
 
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Noble One

International Vice-Captain
The end of the first class career of Bryce McGain. Vote of confidence in Jon Holland. He was bowling well towards the end of the summer, but I just don't see how Holland will ever achieve a first class average of < 40.

Fantastic career for McGain. The best spinner in this country for a couple of seasons and it was such a shame that he was slaughtered in the one Test he was given a chance in.

Dedicate my profile picture for the great man.
 
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Andre

International Regular
The end of the first class career of Bryce McGain. Vote of confidence in Jon Holland. He was bowling well towards the end of the summer, but I just don't see how Holland will ever achieve a first class average of < 40.

Fantastic career for McGain. The best spinner in this country for a couple of seasons and it was such a shame that he was slaughtered in the one Test he was given a chance in.

Dedicate my profile picture for the great man.
Yep, agreed about the Test. One of the absolute worst selections of the last few years I reckon - wasn't even half fit, had barely bowled a ball since major shoulder surgery. Reckon his career would have been completely different if North didn't fall ill before the 3rd SA Test. McGain probably would have gone to the Ashes on done a solid job after an extra few months to regain fitness.

Such as shame he'll be the butt of jokes and discussed in worst XI arguements - he was a much, much better bowler than he got to show at Test level. Could have done a very good job for a few years if handled properly.
 

Noble One

International Vice-Captain
IMO the worst selection decision of all the terrible mistakes we have made with spinners post Shane Warne.

I don't know who had the bright idea to select McGain after one first-class match for Victoria and one tour game for Australia after a three month layoff from that shoulder injury. The Test match against South Africa only proved that he wasn't fit, and yet the selectors used it as a justification to never go near him again.
 

Kylez

State Vice-Captain
The contracts and movements are all started to be released now. Always an interesting time of year.

Do Victoria only see Glenn Maxwell as specialist batsmen? Because IIRC, he came onto the scene as more of a bowling all rounder but his off spin wasn't used too much in the shield games.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
The contracts and movements are all started to be released now. Always an interesting time of year.

Do Victoria only see Glenn Maxwell as specialist batsmen? Because IIRC, he came onto the scene as more of a bowling all rounder but his off spin wasn't used too much in the shield games.
Hard to say, he's really being picked for the all-round package. His offies are pretty decent, gets a fair rip on them, but the eye is really being put on the batting. They'd hope that he ends up being a top 6 batsman. But with Wade's batting prowess, they can probably get away with having him bat at 7 and bowling a little. Might even let them play four quicks, as is their want a lot of the time.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Hard to say, he's really being picked for the all-round package. His offies are pretty decent, gets a fair rip on them, but the eye is really being put on the batting. They'd hope that he ends up being a top 6 batsman. But with Wade's batting prowess, they can probably get away with having him bat at 7 and bowling a little. Might even let them play four quicks, as is their want a lot of the time.
Don't really see the need for four quicks if McDonald is fit though. Admittedly McDonald doesn't seem to be fit very often these days, even if he starts the match.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
They did it regularly in the past even with McDonald playing, though. It's not what I would pick, but as I said, it's what they like to do, especially with a full strength attack.
 

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