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I heard Ponting hadn't contacted him but I swear Katich said in the presser Clarke had messaged him?
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Nah wasn't in the press conference.

On Offsiders they mentioned that Katich did an interview with Graeme Hughes on Friday on radio and he asked Katich directly whether Clarke or Ponting had been in contact with Katich. Katich said explicitly said no.
Yerp, much to Hughes' disgust too. Went off about it, and kept harping on about it after the interview like it was the single worst thing about the whole issue. Whilst I can understand the disappointment if Clarke hadn't been in touch, but I ultimately don't get why it's such a grave issue if Ponting hasn't made contact given he's no longer the captain. Surely then it simply comes down to the relationship between the two players.

Disappointed at the lack of venting aimed at Sutherland in all this though, is just as much to blame as Hilditch.
 

Outswinger@Pace

International 12th Man
This is weird. Katich never mentions it in his press conference. Although he does say that Watson texted him.

And from another (presumably Australian) poster here:

Nah wasn't in the press conference.

On Offsiders they mentioned that Katich did an interview with Graeme Hughes on Friday on radio and he asked Katich directly whether Clarke or Ponting had been in contact with Katich. Katich said explicitly said no.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Wasn't Clarke away on some training camp last week? Probs has got in contact with him since.
Yeah. I think Katich said Clarke (and Ponting) hadn't directly talked to him, and I don't think texting quite counts. Not an especially important issue in any case.
 

Midwinter

State Captain
So who is running this ayslum now !

Senior players criticising the selectors,
Selectors not talking to players to let them know where they stand.
The administrators have taken their eyes off the most important part of their job. To ensure the best team takes the field.

The decline of every great team follows the same trend. Sycophantic administrators bowing to the whims of formerly great players who refuse to admit they are on the way out.

This is the reason the test team is on the slide.

No one is taking responsibility for it.

Reveiws Who needs reviews. Reviews to duck responsibility for making decisions.
This is another symptom not a cure.

There is a problem, it needs fixing it.

The first problem is the top man to take responsibility for the organisation
The second problem is respect between players and selectors.
Then respect of the players for the coaches role.

There was at least a week before Katich had his press conference and no one was interested in what he was going to say ?? WTF
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
So who is running this ayslum now !

Senior players criticising the selectors,
Selectors not talking to players to let them know where they stand.
The administrators have taken their eyes off the most important part of their job. To ensure the best team takes the field.

The decline of every great team follows the same trend. Sycophantic administrators bowing to the whims of formerly great players who refuse to admit they are on the way out.

This is the reason the test team is on the slide.

No one is taking responsibility for it.

Reveiws Who needs reviews. Reviews to duck responsibility for making decisions.
This is another symptom not a cure.

There is a problem, it needs fixing it.

The first problem is the top man to take responsibility for the organisation
The second problem is respect between players and selectors.
Then respect of the players for the coaches role.

There was at least a week before Katich had his press conference and no one was interested in what he was going to say ?? WTF

Is the bolded relating to Warne's continued influence on selection (i.e. Michael Beer), or Katich not being happy about being cut from the contract list?

Look at it objectively, how can our most consistent batsman of the past three years go from being the first name on the team sheet to not in the top 25 players in the country, over the course of 2 months? Just because he's 35 doesn't mean he can't bat any more. Border, Waugh, Tendulkar and co are shining examples.

And I can't see the review being a bad thing. I don't necessarily see improvements coming out of it, but how, exactly, can a document send Australian cricket backwards?

Also don't get the point about the administrators being useless, but the players still have to respect them. Would you have respect for your boss if he couldn't do his job properly?
 

Midwinter

State Captain
Thanks for your reply.

The problems have been discussed endlessly here and in the press.
The reveiw will come up with recommendations , so who will implement them and how many will the implement ?

No its not about Warne, it is about senior players, including Katich being more concerned about their place in the team than how well the team is doing.

Players have to respect the system. It is the major problem at the moment as highlighted by Katich speaking out, that players don't respect the administrators (they don't have to like them but recognise that the players wouldn't be there if not for the people who actually run the game).

The message should be, regardless of contracts, the best 11 players at the time of selection are going to be picked.

That is all :)
 

howardj

International Coach
Maybe if there is a new selection panel (surely the Review will recommend this) then they'll not put so much weight on the contracted player pool, and hence Katich might find a way back. Unlikely though.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Thanks for your reply.

The problems have been discussed endlessly here and in the press.
The reveiw will come up with recommendations , so who will implement them and how many will the implement ?

No its not about Warne, it is about senior players, including Katich being more concerned about their place in the team than how well the team is doing.

Players have to respect the system. It is the major problem at the moment as highlighted by Katich speaking out, that players don't respect the administrators (they don't have to like them but recognise that the players wouldn't be there if not for the people who actually run the game).

The message should be, regardless of contracts, the best 11 players at the time of selection are going to be picked.

That is all :)

Yeah, I agree with most of what you're saying, but how can we criticise Katich for being cut from a contract list (and presumably the test team) when he's a) scored more runs than anyone not named Ali Cook in the past 3 years and b) is willing to push himself through injury to do his best for our country? I think the majority of cricket fans would rather see Katich opening the batting in Sri Lanka than Phil Hughes (except for SL fans, of course).

Katich in my and plenty of other people's opinions, is still the best person to open the batting for Australia. That's the issue, it isn't him being a **** and refusing to give up his place, its the fact that he has proven that he is the best qualified person to do the job, but he's been skipped over because of his age.

And on the administration topic, its a two way street. Without players being willing to give everything for their country, the administrators wouldn't have a job. Discarding a man who has done everything asked of him because of his age is pathetic. Its all well and good to plan for 2013, but there's no point in playing an understrength XI for the next test. Again, not disagreeing with your point, just looking at it from the other side.

Agreed that you select the best XI for the job, regardless of who has contracts, but CA has basically said they won't pick the best XI, because they want to prepare for a series in 2 years time, despite the fact the next 8 months has them facing 3 of the 4 teams ranked above them.

Katich :wub:



And ponting28, North has so many technical issues and shouldn't be anywhere near the test team, so giving him a contract is pointless. Hopes will never be in the selectors plans again so long as Watson is fit. Agree with you on Katich though.
 

Son Of Coco

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The unfortunate part about that is that Clarke said, "if he continues to do what he has been doing". He's either done enough to stay there or he hasn't. Saying if he keeps on in the same vein he might get a recall suggests the selectors have made a bit of a **** up...something most seem to acknowledge.

Love the video of Hilditch though. Richie's disdain for his attempts to play the hook shot continuously were great. He was a ****ing idiot at the crease. Nothing's changed since he left it.
 

Daemon

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Katich should be allowed to sue for age discrimination as all other employers are subjected to
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Not sure that this is the right thread for this (can't remember if there's a "waaaaaaah, why are Australia so ****" thread :p) but I thought Paul Marsh's comments on the ICL were quite interesting.
 
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