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*Official* - India in West Indies

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
It's pretty much a win-win for India. They'll probably still win the series while resting key players for England

stuff the other countries though
And why did Australia keep / OR Kept cancelling Bangladesh series? :dry:
 

Flem274*

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Got Spin is not in charge of Cricket Australia Cevno.

Cricket Australia doing bad things for world cricket does not excuse the BCCI, and vice versa.
 

GotSpin

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Teja.

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International cricket takes precedence over any domestic competition.
Yeah, That's almost completely true from a fan POV but not completely, objectively from a player POV at this point of time in cricket. Yeah, It's certainly bad for test cricket but the IPL situation is a very bizarre and unique one for players because while what you say usually rings true, It has also been predominantly true that the most prestigious competition also pays the best but this isn't true in this scenario and therefore it requires us to abandon such a simplistic mindset.

Yeah, It's bad for cricket but forcing cricketers to play the international test competition and hence indirectly disallowing some to play the IPL will be even worse for cricket and player rights.

We're not talking marginal economic differences either. The difference is ridiculously huge. 1 IPL match>Entire WI series in terms of money. It's sad to see this situation arise but considering the workload over the past few months, It's hard to blame the cricketers too and once we enter the prestige-money debate, things get very shady IMO and it's best to let the professionals make their own economic decisions and respect them either way.

Yes, I'm aware this is unjust for cricket fans all over the world and the WI board loses out but everyone cannot be pleased. Nothing is more important than giving the players freedom to take calls on which events they want to play in, IMO.
 
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Blaze 18

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I don't much like the idea of IPL getting a window. It's a domestic tournament and should be treated as such. You'll soon have every domestic competition wanting a window, otherwise.
 

GotSpin

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I don't much like the idea of IPL getting a window. It's a domestic tournament and should be treated as such. You'll soon have every domestic competition wanting a window, otherwise.
Yeah that's why it should be an informal window. Other boards should just happen to not schedule matches then.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Got Spin is not in charge of Cricket Australia Cevno.

Cricket Australia doing bad things for world cricket does not excuse the BCCI, and vice versa.
The fact that this needed to be stated is rather dispiriting.
Where did i say he was incharge of Australian cricket though?

He was going on about how BCCI was doing what was good for Indian cricket and shafting others by resting players with important series coming up FFS.
I was just pointing out that all the boards do the same and even cancel series.
Ultimately they are responsible for running the cricket team of their home countries.

3 POINTS -

1)Ultimately there are several benefits for Indian cricket in the long term and short term of the IPL(as i have listed them) and it is imperative that the big stars continue to play it for the IPL to be a success and reap these benefits.

2)With the England tour coming up and after so much cricket this is the perfect oppurtunity for India to rest players and try out some players who have been long overdue chances (and improved by the IPL too). It is not a very tough tour ,not a very easy one to test such players and with the Batsman getting older is a perfect oppurtunity to do so.

3)West Indies is no longer the most attractive touring destination for visiting teams and for the Indian player and the BCCI. Like Bangladesh may not be for the CA and Australian players. And please i am not comparing the two teams here,before someone starts to go on a different tangent.

Whether you like it or not ,all of the above are the reality.
And i explained earlier it does not exactly amount to a financial loss or cheating WICB either in any way as it should still be a decent contest and the series is remaining the same schedule.
Plus many Indian fans are looking forward to see some of these players in action and so are the selectors.


If you keep the above in mind,don't really see what so much hoo-hah is about,tbh.
It would have been fine i guess if instead of the IPL there had been a 20th series in 5 years against Srilanka and the players would have then been rested.

But since it is the IPL("the source of all evil":ph34r:) everybody is out to create a mountain of a molehill.
 
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vcs

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Good points in this thread, been an interesting read. Well argued from both sides.
 

Daemon

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Where did i say he was incharge of Australian cricket though?

He was going on about how BCCI was doing what was good for Indian cricket and shafting others by resting players with important series coming up FFS.
I was just pointing out that all the boards do the same and even cancel series.
Ultimately they are responsible for running the cricket team of their home countries.

3 POINTS -

1)Ultimately there are several benefits for Indian cricket in the long term and short term of the IPL(as i have listed them) and it is imperative that the big stars continue to play it for the IPL to be a success and reap these benefits.

2)With the England tour coming up and after so much cricket this is the perfect oppurtunity for India to rest players and try out some players who have been long overdue chances (and improved by the IPL too). It is not a very tough tour ,not a very easy one to test such players and with the Batsman getting older is a perfect oppurtunity to do so.

3)West Indies is no longer the most attractive touring destination for visiting teams and for the Indian player and the BCCI. Like Bangladesh may not be for the CA and Australian players. And please i am not comparing the two teams here,before someone starts to go on a different tangent.

Whether you like it or not ,all of the above are the reality.
And i explained earlier it does not exactly amount to a financial loss or cheating WICB either in any way as it should still be a decent contest and the series is remaining the same schedule.
Plus many Indian fans are looking forward to see some of these players in action and so are the selectors.


If you keep the above in mind,don't really see what so much hoo-hah is about,tbh.
It would have been fine i guess if instead of the IPL there had been a 20th series in 5 years against Srilanka and the players would have then been rested.
AWTA. This benefits the BCCI both ways, through IPL and through letting new players get experience. Not sure where the honour code and all that slots in. If we lose the series then the blame will be on them, because ultimately their goal is to make India win every single series they play. If we don't lose, then players like Sachin would've contributed to the IPLs success and at the same time we would have a better idea of future test prospects as well as won the series.

For the argument of choosing IPL over this WI tour, I'm not sure whether Sachin is allowed to skip games based on how he feels. There could be some sort of statement in the IPL contracts that doesn't allow the players to skip the games unless they're injured or their Board doesn't allow them to participate.
 

yoginavale

Cricket Spectator
Top Indian Players Out of Squad

The 2011 cricket world cup "Man of the Series " Yuvraj Singh & Captian of Kolkata Knight Riders Gautam Gambhir are not flying to West Indies due to Injury.....:huh:
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Gavaskar has had a recent falling out with the BCCI and the IPL specially since he left the governing council and also had a payment dispute.

So he seems to have changed hi stance on somethings and in a clever manner comes out with crticisms ever so often recently.
Expect Kapil Dev to follow suit next and then Shastri to argue for the other side.
 

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