**Official** Sri Lanka in England / Scotland - 2011

[Cevno]

I wonder if Bangladesh's attack would look better if they had India's batting lineup?

I was being slightly facetious but I really don't rate India's attack without Zak in the slightest. I used to be a big fan of Sharma but he's been woeful for 2 years, Sreesanth is garbage and Harbhajan is crap outside of India and against England. India better pray Zak's fitness holds up because they'll have some long days in the field if he's not fit and firing.

RP Singh did a good job in England the last time round,tbh.
And i don't rate him at all.

The Indian bowlers tend to improve with the conditions and if the right swing bowlers are picked for England than they can adapt too.
For example i could see Praveen Kumar doing well on some grounds in England.

 

[Furball]

Tahir?

With 0 Test wickets?

 

[centurymaker]

T'sobe actually bowled better than Ishant and Sreesanth in SA.

 

[centurymaker]

With 0 Test wickets?

Paul harris does he job well tbh. He holds an end up.

 

[Cevno]

Plus South Africa have Kallis who may have diminished as a bowler in the past few years ,is a better fifth bowler than anything England have.

 

[Cevno]

I would actually overall put South Africa slightly ahead though Swann obviously evens it up a bit.

The best two South Africa seamer are better than the best 2 english seamers.

Swann is better than any South African Spinner by a distance atm as Tahir is unproven.

Broad is still inconsistent and though is better than Tsotsobe ,but the gap for me is not very big.

Plus then South Africa have Kallis who may have diminished as a bowler is still a decent hold up option atleast.

 

[Furball]

I would actually overall put South Africa slightly ahead though Swann obviously evens it up a bit.

The best two South Africa bowlers are better than the best 2 english bowlers.

Swann is better than any South African Spinner by a distance atm as Tahir is unproven.

Broad is still inconsistent and though is better than Tsotsobe ,but the gap for me is not very big.

Plus then South Africa have Kallis who may have diminished as a bowler is still a decent hold up option atleast.

wat

 

[Flem274*]

wat

Steyn/Morkel and Anderson/Swann is a close contest imo.

It's the third bowler where everything falls away for the South Africans.

 

[Cevno]

I meant the two best seamers ,imo.

Tremlett/Anderson vs Morkel/Steyn

 

[Cevno]

I wonder if Bangladesh's attack would look better if they had India's batting lineup?

I was being slightly facetious but I really don't rate India's attack without Zak in the slightest. I used to be a big fan of Sharma but he's been woeful for 2 years, Sreesanth is garbage and Harbhajan is crap outside of India and against England. India better pray Zak's fitness holds up because they'll have some long days in the field if he's not fit and firing.

They would probably do better or the batting lineup a bit worse ,tbh.

But still they won't be as good as the Indian attack without Zaheer.

Infact it is pretty ridiculous to suggest that.
India are number 1 side atm in the rankings and Zaheer is quite injury prone and misses his fair share of cricket.

You are either overrating the Bangladeshi bowlers or underrating the Indian ones.

 

[NasserFan207]

GF you are seriously overrating the Bangladesh attack mate. Their 'best' bowlers are designed for one dayers. In tests they are absolutely abysmal.

Even Shakib isn't as good as he's cracked up to be. India without Zaheer are considerably better, with far more depth.

Would fancy Cook and Trott to do the same thing to India regardless however, especially on these tracks.

 

[centurymaker]

I meant the two best seamers ,imo.

Tremlett/Anderson vs Morkel/Steyn

Comfortably ahead.

No other bowling attack can dismiss india for less than 230 three times in 3 tests.
If the english bowlers rip though the indian batting line-up 3 times in the upcoming series, I'll put them ahead.

 

[centurymaker]

Cricket Records | Records | Basil D'Oliveira Trophy, 2009/10 | Most wickets | ESPN Cricinfo

Tells you all you need to know.

 

[Jacknife]

Cricket Records | Records | Basil D'Oliveira Trophy, 2009/10 | Most wickets | ESPN Cricinfo

Tells you all you need to know.

How does a one off test series, in SA back yard, tell you everything you need to know?

 

[Cevno]

Agree,tbh.

One series is too short a sample size.

But still Steyn and Morkel are better individually and as a combination than Anderson and Tremlett respectively.

 

[Jacknife]

Comfortably ahead.

No other bowling attack can dismiss india for less than 230 three times in 3 tests.
If the english bowlers rip though the indian batting line-up 3 times in the upcoming series, I'll put them ahead.

Tbf, Durban can be and was when you played on it, a rip snorter of a pitch and 228 that India scored was the highest score in the test, India dismissed SA that test for 131 and 215.

 

[akilana]

But still Steyn and Morkel are better individually and as a combination than Anderson and Tremlett respectively.

Easily.

 

[centurymaker]

How does a one off test series, in SA back yard, tell you everything you need to know?

just thought that those figure gave quite an accurate reflection of their respective bowling abilities.

btw-
Bowling records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo

Included only the top batting line-ups. (nz, pak, wi have relatively poor line-ups)

Top 3 bowlers from each side-

Steyn - avg 23, sr 43
Morkel - avg 30, sr 57
Harris - avg 40, sr 88, econ 2.76

Anderson - avg 32, sr 61
Broad - avg 36, sr 70
Swann- avg 36, sr 70

Zaheer - avg 28, sr 49
Harbi- avg 38, sr 75
Ohja - avg 43, sr 89

Siddle - avg 27, sr 54
Johnson- avg 31, sr 54
Hilfy- avg 39, sr 78

 

[Athlai]

You know you shouldn't restrict NZ and Paks bowling in a list like this. Sure take out their batting but they bowled too.

The best of the rest bowling:

Amir 44 @ 26.77
Asif 36 @ 28.52
Shakib 31 @ 35.74

 

[centurymaker]

I didn;t want to see the cheats on that list tbh.