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**Official** Sri Lanka in England / Scotland - 2011

Howe_zat

Howe_zat

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Outswinger@Pace said:
How many overs can we expect to see tomorrow? Is there any bad weather forecasted?

Assuming all goes well, I'd expect England to put in about 250-260 more in about 65-70 overs tomorrow and then declare. That'd give enough time for an attack minus Jimmy to push the Lankan batsmen to the wall. Pressure can do weird things to the human brain, so I wouldn't be too surprised if the visiting team collapses on day five!
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It's not out of the question but there's plenty of rain hanging around, so we're still likely to lose a session or two. So we'd be looking at three bowlers against a good batting lineup in two, maybe three sesssions max. Seems very, very unlikely.
 
Outswinger@Pace

Outswinger@Pace

International 12th Man
Howe_zat said:
The last time I saw an Indian test attack minus Zaheer, they certainly didn't play like they were any better than Bangladesh.

I'd accept that guys like Sree have it in them to produce something, but it's hard to say they're a class above when they don't play like it nine times out of ten.
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Someone told me the other day that Sharma is bowling in the IPL and is back to his old speed. I don't follow that format so in principle, I haven't seen Ishant bowl since the test in Cape Town.

But if he's bowling at genuine pace again, that's good news for world cricket. Sreesanth doesn't have it in him, IMHO, to shoulder the responsibility of carrying a test attack. He can be a good supporting bowler though, when he gets his head right.

By and large, it's true that An Indian attack - Zaheer = a rudderless vessel in the stormy North Sea! :wacko:
 
Outswinger@Pace

Outswinger@Pace

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Howe_zat said:
It's not out of the question but there's plenty of rain hanging around, so we're still likely to lose a session or two. So we'd be looking at three bowlers against a good batting lineup in two, maybe three sesssions max. Seems very, very unlikely.
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Was afraid that'd be the case. I don't mind drawn Tests as long as players are fighting their way to win/save a game. Unlike in this case where it looks like the weather God has chipped in with a player of the match performance! :laugh:
 
Jono

Jono

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So you're judging it over one (obviously awful) match with one of those bowlers not going to tour England?

Bit silly.
 
Jono

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
And again, I don't think the attack without Zaheer is much chop. But I think its a bridge too far to say its level with Bangladesh and this Sri Lankan attack.
 
Uppercut

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Lol @ comparing a test attack to Bangladesh's attack.

I wonder how insane the Indian batting lineup must be in Furball's head if he thinks it+Bangladesh-standard bowling= world number one team.
 
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vcs

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Uppercut said:
Lol @ comparing a test attack to Bangladesh's attack.

I wonder how insane the Indian batting lineup must be in Furball's head if he thinks it+Bangladesh-standard bowling= world number one team.
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Indeed.

In addition to that win in SL to tie the series, India also beat NZ in a must win game by an innings and 150 odd runs by bowling them out for <200 in both innings, without Zaheer.
 
Prince EWS

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Uppercut said:
Lol @ comparing a test attack to Bangladesh's attack.

I wonder how insane the Indian batting lineup must be in Furball's head if he thinks it+Bangladesh-standard bowling= world number one team.
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To be fair, what he's saying is:
Indian batting + Bangladesh standard bowling + Zaheer Khan = world number one team

It's still pretty ridiculous though. I've criticised India's attack here before and have debates over it, but an attack of Sreesanth, Sharma, Harbhajan, Ojha/Munaf and Sehwag is a long way ahead of what Bangladesh have to offer.
 
centurymaker

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bowling attack ratings-

1. SA 9/10
2. Eng 8.5/10
3. Aus 7/10
4. Ind 6.5/10 (without zaheer it's 5/10)
5. Pak 6/10
6. NZ 5.5/10
7. WI 4/10
8. SL 3.5/10 (the current one)
9. Bang 3/10

IMO
 
NasserFan207

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India without Zak has an undeniably poor test attack but its still several levels above Bangladesh. That's a pretty ridiculous statement.
 
Furball

Furball

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Prince EWS said:
To be fair, what he's saying is:
Indian batting + Bangladesh standard bowling + Zaheer Khan = world number one team

It's still pretty ridiculous though. I've criticised India's attack here before and have debates over it, but an attack of Sreesanth, Sharma, Harbhajan, Ojha/Munaf and Sehwag is a long way ahead of what Bangladesh have to offer.
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I wonder if Bangladesh's attack would look better if they had India's batting lineup?

I was being slightly facetious but I really don't rate India's attack without Zak in the slightest. I used to be a big fan of Sharma but he's been woeful for 2 years, Sreesanth is garbage and Harbhajan is crap outside of India and against England. India better pray Zak's fitness holds up because they'll have some long days in the field if he's not fit and firing.
 
Furball

Furball

Evil Scotsman
centurymaker said:
bowling attack ratings-

1. SA 9/10
2. Eng 8.5/10
3. Aus 7/10
4. Ind 6.5/10 (without zaheer it's 5/10)
5. Pak 6/10
6. NZ 5.5/10
7. WI 4/10
8. SL 3.5/10 (the current one)
9. Bang 3/10

IMO
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You've got South Africa and England the wrong way round. South Africa have no third seamer or spinner worthy of the name.
 
Cevno

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Howe_zat said:
The last time I saw an Indian test attack minus Zaheer, they certainly didn't play like they were any better than Bangladesh.

I'd accept that guys like Sree have it in them to produce something, but it's hard to say they're a class above when they don't play like it nine times out of ten.
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Both Sree and Ishant average pretty much equal to Stuart Broad and that too playing In India with their home matches.

So Stuart Broad is a Bangladesh standard bowler too?:ph34r:

There have been many other instances where India has performed without ZAK too.

To judge on one instance where they did not even have a practice match before to acclimatise is harsh.
 
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fredfertang

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GingerFurball said:
I wonder if Bangladesh's attack would look better if they had India's batting lineup?

I was being slightly facetious but I really don't rate India's attack without Zak in the slightest. I used to be a big fan of Sharma but he's been woeful for 2 years, Sreesanth is garbage and Harbhajan is crap outside of India and against England. India better pray Zak's fitness holds up because they'll have some long days in the field if he's not fit and firing.
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Agree with this, although if we do get this promised long dry summer, and he gets selected, I can see Amit Mishra causing England's batting no end of problems
 
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