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*Official* NRL 2011 Season thread
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Mister Wright
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Yow Yeh is far and ahead the form winger of the competition. Unless you're talking about playing players out of position like Tonga or Hayne.
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I'd take Boyd, Hayne, Uate or Gordon. I like Yow Yeh, but Boyd and Hayne are just incredible footballers at the back or on the wing, and Uate and Gordon are better wingers imo and have proven so for longer.
Still picking Morris is a worse call. Guy's been average at best, wouldn't be in my top 8 picks for the position. Worst part is you just know he's going to be in the NSW team over Uate and Gordon which is typical garbage selection you expect from our state really.
EDIT: While we're on selection how does Adam Cuthbertson get a run for City off the bench over like 2/3s of the back row stocks available? Thought the guy morphed into a cheeseburger sometime in 2010 tbh.
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Look, I know everyone has to start somewhere - Burgey is still on single syllable words and Jono is working out how to think and breathe at the same time. But for a club to be down 30-0 at full time at NRL level is beyond a joke.
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Isn't your AFL team ****?
And by **** I don't mean just pretty ****, I mean lost to Jono's **** team ****.
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howardj
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how ****ed in the head are the NRL
when they were making the draw up at the start of the year, there was a reasonable chance that the Bronco v Melb game would be a blockbuster
So what do they do? They schedule it on a Saturday night, one day after the Test match and City v Country.
Lockyer, Hodges and Thaiday are not playing, and you'll have 10 others in doubt/backing up from either City v Country or Roos v Kiwis.
I understand they scheduled it this way to clash with the Lions v Suns, but really it's just shooting yourself in the foot (which is typical of the NRL)
when they were making the draw up at the start of the year, there was a reasonable chance that the Bronco v Melb game would be a blockbuster
So what do they do? They schedule it on a Saturday night, one day after the Test match and City v Country.
Lockyer, Hodges and Thaiday are not playing, and you'll have 10 others in doubt/backing up from either City v Country or Roos v Kiwis.
I understand they scheduled it this way to clash with the Lions v Suns, but really it's just shooting yourself in the foot (which is typical of the NRL)
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Unless it works differently on Rep weekends, the NRL has nothing to do with sheduling when a match is played. Other than flagship games like Anzac day, the exact date/time of the matches is determined by the TV companies. On your average weekend, 9 gets first pick at 2 games for Friday, then Fox gets the next for Monday, then 9 for Sunday arvo, and then Fox schedules the rest. If you can fault the NRL it's for not having fixed schedules so they can't be strategic around external events, but this arrangement is worth a fair bit of money in the tv contract. The AFL has nothing to do with it.
Other thing is that when this schedule was drawn up Brisbane were not topping the table, had just punted their coach 2 weeks before kick off and were widely picked to be inconsistent due to the amount of youngsters in the team. No one knew what the Storm would do. Very hard to know what is going to be a blockbuster that far out really.
Still pretty average timing. That Saturday game after the test is always a bit of a joke and you're right it really is a shame for the comp to have these two stuck in that slot.
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My god Souths can be dbags. The comments by their Richardson and Crowe about the news that Sandow will be going to Parra are petulant at best, breach of trust at worst.
Richardson: "We’re very disappointed to learn of Chris’ decision but we wish him the best for the future.
“Unfortunately for us he has met his Alan Bond."
Crowe on twitter: "Chris Sandow to Parramatta at $550k a year."
Firstly Richardson is hypocritical beyond belief making backhanded comments about paying big money for players considering why they were able to lure such big name players to the club. Secondly Crowe making information on Sandow's contract publically available is just low for Parra, but more importantly for Sandow. I don't see what right he has to divulge that information. They both come across as petulant little children which is funny considering how they've been luring players away from other clubs with big money.
That said the money being bandied about is definitely overs for a guy like Sandow. Just can't believe a CEO of an organisation would come out with such tasteless comments.
Richardson: "We’re very disappointed to learn of Chris’ decision but we wish him the best for the future.
“Unfortunately for us he has met his Alan Bond."
Crowe on twitter: "Chris Sandow to Parramatta at $550k a year."
Firstly Richardson is hypocritical beyond belief making backhanded comments about paying big money for players considering why they were able to lure such big name players to the club. Secondly Crowe making information on Sandow's contract publically available is just low for Parra, but more importantly for Sandow. I don't see what right he has to divulge that information. They both come across as petulant little children which is funny considering how they've been luring players away from other clubs with big money.
That said the money being bandied about is definitely overs for a guy like Sandow. Just can't believe a CEO of an organisation would come out with such tasteless comments.
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Higher on the ladder than your NRL team
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Touche good sir.Higher on the ladder than your NRL team
Still above the "2011 premiers" though.
Mister Wright
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Boyd - injured and would have been selected if fit.
Hayne - suspended, and hasn't played the two weeks leading up to the test match, not the greatest preperation, I can understand why he wasn't selected. Wasn't exactly burning the house down with his form either.
Uate - far too inconsistent, especially compared to Yow Yeh.
Gordon - Was never going to be considered while his side is sitting comfortably 2nd last on the table, while Yow Yeh's team sits comfortably in 2nd spot on the table.
It shouldn't be a surprise.
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Fair enough on Boyd. I missed the memo.
Hayne though has been one of Australia and NSWs best over the last couple of years. He's often done so on the wing of all places, and he's shown time and time again that he's up to that level. He hasn't been great this year, but he's a genuine superstar with runs on the board.
Uate has not been inconsistent by any stretch of the imagination. In fact quite the opposite. I'm not a big fan of stats in RL discussions, but Uate vs Yow Yeh is just too stark a difference to ignore.
Uate: 120 runs, 1058m, 44 tackle breaks, 10 offloads, 6 linebreaks, 5 tries, 27 tackles, 10 missed, 1 error.
Yow Yeh: 89 runs, 795m, 18 tackle breaks, 2 offloads, 4 linebreaks, 5 tries, 31 tackles, 8 missed, 8 errors.
Uate absolutely murders Yow Yeh in tackle breaks and offloads while being ahead on line breaks all with far far fewer errors. 1 error so far this season while putting in far more work says to me that he's the very model of consistency. After all that you only have to watch Uate to see that he's a stupidly difficult player to play against. He has amazing accelleration for a man of his size and strength, he has a low center of gravity so he's very hard to bring down. Technically and positionally he's very solid, he sometimes comes up with unbelievable plays (see below) and he's been doing all this for at least a year and a half longer than Yow Yeh has even been mentioned as a rep standard winger.
I'll just leave this here.
On Gordon, how a player's team is doing shouldn't come into it. In fact that kind of attitude is the exact reason we have an even worse selection decision on the other wing. Gallen, Snowden and Petero all made the squad. Last year Gallen, Tonga and Scott were all selected. You pick the best players irrespective of how their team is going, but all that aside Gordon has been our best in literally every game this year. If anything the work he's done in a terrible side should be treated with more weight than YY who has the advantage of playing outside one of the best Centers in the game atm.
My feelings on Gordon are pretty well known here. Gordon is a fantastic player, and he has been for a long while. YY and Gordon are more similar as players than Uate, but Gordon has been rep standard for longer than the mainstream media have realised, and he showed he could make the step up in Origin last year.
The only real argument for YY over these guys is that they wanted to keep the club combination between Hodges/YY, and that he's probably stronger than all of the above in the air. At the end of all that, he's developing into a really good player, and should play in the future for sure. But he's really only been rep quality this year, while others have been so for far longer.
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howardj
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Glad the Test selections have been brought up.
For mine, we need to take the Kiwis serious - they're every bit as good as us. To that end, there are three glaring errors made by the selectors.
Yow Yeh over Hayne (not saying Yow is not a good player.) But if your life was on the line, who of thse two would you choose in a rep game?
Cronk Again, a magnificent player, but an ill-fit for a bench spot.
Idris I love using the 'but for' test. But for the frizzy hair and the hype... I mean the bloke got a bath in Origin coming off the bench last year. Can he at least prove himself in that arena before playing for Australia.
For mine, we need to take the Kiwis serious - they're every bit as good as us. To that end, there are three glaring errors made by the selectors.
Yow Yeh over Hayne (not saying Yow is not a good player.) But if your life was on the line, who of thse two would you choose in a rep game?
Cronk Again, a magnificent player, but an ill-fit for a bench spot.
Idris I love using the 'but for' test. But for the frizzy hair and the hype... I mean the bloke got a bath in Origin coming off the bench last year. Can he at least prove himself in that arena before playing for Australia.
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The Idris selection is also pretty poor because aside from the fact he was picked because of his hair it leaves us with only two forwards on the bench. Cronks selection I don't mind as much. They always love having someone who can cover the halves if one guy goes down, and Cronk can play dummy half IIRC. One utility off the bench is always handy, and Cronk is all class. Morris is comfortably the worst selection there though.
Mister Wright
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Good selection in the end as Inglis was injured. Don't think Cronk would have made much of a fist of left centre.