*Official* Indian Premier League 2011

[vcs]

This tournament is becoming a yawn-fest. Ninety league games that are pretty much coin-flips, really, due to the nature of T20. Even the most ardent IPL fan must have lost most of his enthusiasm by now.

 

[Jono]

Problem is vcs they're not coin flips. The "better" team is generally winning.

I wish they were coin flips. Would be well in profit then.

Agree with it being waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long though.

 

[vcs]

They do seem that way though. Teams are very closely bunched together on the table. Maybe the last few ones have seen teams that are far apart on the table playing more.

 

[Jono]

Could be.

I still get the feeling that Mumbai (albeit losing the last match), Chennai, RCB and KKR are comfortably better than the rest.

Is that what the table says? I don't even bother looking at it itbt

 

[Xuhaib]

nomatter how savy or well thought out the business model is the long term success of any business depends on the quality of the core product.

T-20 is actually a decent product on its known however cramming so many games in such a limited time frame will hurt the format in the long run.It cannot be compared with a zillion games in an NFL or MLB season since the game that is being played is the orignal format of that sport and the only format that people love and care about that sport.

Cricket has 3 formats with T-20 being the one that has been gimmicked the most, so whenever there is over saturation of one particular format the fans of the sport will start looking forward to the other 2 formats to fulfill their cricket watching need.

 

[Borges]

This tournament is becoming a yawn-fest. Ninety league games that are pretty much coin-flips, really, due to the nature of T20. Even the most ardent IPL fan must have lost most of his enthusiasm by now.

Yes. The TV ratings are slipping steadily. Down to 4.2 (from 4.6) for the week ending 23rd; my guess is that this week, it will be lower still. If it eventually drops down to below 3, I think we will start seeing some signs of real panic.

For me though, the tournament has become more interesting; some of the young Indian players I'm following, like Abdulla and Bhargav Bhatt in this game, are beginning to play more regularly.

 

[vcs]

Could be.

I still get the feeling that Mumbai (albeit losing the last match), Chennai, RCB and KKR are comfortably better than the rest.

Is that what the table says? I don't even bother looking at it itbt

Yeah, I think so. I think at least 3 of those 4 will be in the semis.

nomatter how savy or well thought out the business model is the long term success of any business depends on the quality of the core product.

T-20 is actually a decent product on its known however cramming so many games in such a limited time frame will hurt the format in the long run.It cannot be compared with a zillion games in an NFL or MLB season since the game that is being played is the orignal format of that sport and the only format that people love and care about that sport.

Cricket has 3 formats with T-20 being the one that has been gimmicked the most, so whenever there is over saturation of one particular format the fans of the sport will start looking forward to the other 2 formats to fulfill their cricket watching need.

Agreed. The format is just too shallow and limited to hold the viewer's attention when the games are coming so thick and fast.

Yes. The TV ratings are slipping steadily. Down to 4.2 (from 4.6) for the week ending 23rd; my guess is that this week, it will be lower still. If it eventually drops down to below 3, I think we will start seeing some signs of real panic.

For me though, the tournament has become more interesting; some of the young Indian players I'm following, like Abdulla and Bhargav Bhatt in this game, are beginning to play more regularly.

Hopefully, they split it into groups and shorten it to 4-5 weeks for next year.

 

[Jono]

nomatter how savy or well thought out the business model is the long term success of any business depends on the quality of the core product.

T-20 is actually a decent product on its known however cramming so many games in such a limited time frame will hurt the format in the long run.It cannot be compared with a zillion games in an NFL or MLB season since the game that is being played is the orignal format of that sport and the only format that people love and care about that sport.

Cricket has 3 formats with T-20 being the one that has been gimmicked the most, so whenever there is over saturation of one particular format the fans of the sport will start looking forward to the other 2 formats to fulfill their cricket watching need.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head.

 

[Bun]

Yes. The TV ratings are slipping steadily. Down to 4.2 (from 4.6) for the week ending 23rd; my guess is that this week, it will be lower still. If it eventually drops down to below 3, I think we will start seeing some signs of real panic.

For me though, the tournament has become more interesting; some of the young Indian players I'm following, like Abdulla and Bhargav Bhatt in this game, are beginning to play more regularly.

that trp still makes it one of the best viewed.

but I do agree it's beco,ing a yawn fest... ffs same teams facin each other in 3 days is not just it.

 

[Blaze 18]

Hopefully, they split it into groups and shorten it to 4-5 weeks for next year.

Never going to happen. I only hope they don't decide to have two IPLs a year.

 

[Jono]

There's no way they will. Even the most ardent IPL Indian fans will turn away.

There is no doubt in my mind that the great majority of Indian cricket fans will be pissed off if they start seeing less of their Indian team and more franchises.

 

[mono]

what did i say about the IPL finding it difficult to sustain itself.

 

[vcs]

7 weeks of this **** is way, way too much. Can't believe we aren't even half-way through this thing yet.

 

[Blaze 18]

Does anyone know how long it's going to take the franchises to break even?

 

[mono]

Does anyone know how long it's going to take the franchises to break even?

These new teams are are valued at 350 million. so I assume those teams will take close 5-6 years to break even from a highly conservative guess.

 

[Blaze 18]

These new teams are are valued at 350 million. so I assume those teams will take close 5-6 years to break even from a highly conservative guess.

Hmmm, that's a long time. No wonder we had Lalit Modi pushing for more matches and more IPL.

 

[mono]

Hmmm, that's a long time. No wonder we had Lalit Modi pushing for more matches and more IPL.

here is the revenue flow for 2010

From the looks of it 8 teams earned around 3.5bn indian rupees. that's around 80mn USD. so 10mn USD per team. even from that estimate it will take about 35 years for the new franchises to break even. So my intuition was correct. These teams are obscenely over valued. This type of valuation is fine only as long as the IPL can sustain their momentum from 2010 in the subsequent years.

 

[Blaze 18]

Cheers for that, mono. You really should be posting more often.

 

[Borges]

Does anyone know how long it's going to take the franchises to break even?

AFAIK, these franchises are never going to break even. I don't believe that those who bought them expected them to make money in the first place. They are essentially vanity purchases by their owners - movie stars, business tycoons and the like. Mumbai Indians and Deccan Chargers are the equivalent of what for lesser mortals would have been, say, diamond necklaces purchased as a gifts for their spouses.

Any venture that buys an unheard of palooka like Dan Christain for a million dollars just can't be a serious business proposition.

 

[Bun]

These new teams are are valued at 350 million. so I assume those teams will take close 5-6 years to break even from a highly conservative guess.

those valuations are nothing but rubbish imho. in fact read somewhere that the same two franchises had appealed to bcci to waive off 25 per cent of that, which was summarily dismissed by them.

and no, national cricket is not going to take a backseat by any means. if anything, since ipl, thwe no. of tests played per year by this team has only increased. heck, how many times in his career has sachin played fifteen tests a year?

ipl is going to stay like this, perhaps we might see a group thing introduced, but I highly doubt it will go on to expand beyond two months.