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Indian influence good or bad for cricket?

Indian influence good or bad for cricket?


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Bun

Banned
How have they shown themselves to be ****ing stupid?
ha ha agree. **** talk abt tis equitable dist too. If anything players havent ever been so well rewarded like in this era. Wudnt say it?s been all roses but i.d rather ignore the corruption if cricket as whole is benefitin. Heck the west calls it perf bonus even ffs
 

Bun

Banned
How have they shown themselves to be ****ing stupid?
ha ha agree. **** talk abt tis equitable dist too. If anything players havent ever been so well rewarded like in this era. Wudnt say it?s been all roses but i.d rather ignore the corruption if cricket as whole is benefitin. Heck the west calls it perf bonus even ffs
 

hang on

State Vice-Captain
good call with the udrs. the unwillingness to give the system, as it stands, the thumbs up, is an act of no little shortsightedness on the part of the indian board.
 

mono

U19 Debutant
I'll say one thing though. the IPL, IMHO, is a disaster waiting to happen. It has become too big too quickly, essentially a bubble. Most IPL teams are worth more than some top English premiership teams. So the revenue necessary to justify these investments has to be enormous. and if such revenue cannot be generated the IPL bubble will burst and there might be substantial ramifications for international cricket. I am telling this as someone who has experience in the equities market.
 

hang on

State Vice-Captain
ah, lovely, always love it when a big finance honcho or private equity whizkid explains things to me.

prefer it even more when they say 'trust me', this is what will happen.
 

jeevan

International 12th Man
I'll say one thing though. the IPL, IMHO, is a disaster waiting to happen. It has become too big too quickly, essentially a bubble. Most IPL teams are worth more than some top English premiership teams. So the revenue necessary to justify these investments has to be enormous. and if such revenue cannot be generated the IPL bubble will burst and there might be substantial ramifications for international cricket. I am telling this as someone who has experience in the equities market.
Isn't there a concept of latent demand in economics?

And why is the valuation of an important pillar of the Indian entertainment industry being higher than one of the UK that surprising? Underwritten by the size of their economies and the relative importance of the respective enterprise, are they not?

Oh wait, these are basic economics questions - you said equities ...:ph34r:
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
While I don't necessarily think Indian influence is bad for cricket - How can it be considering the influence, money and market they bring - I absolutely despise the IPL. One of the worst things in cricket atm.
 

Borges

International Regular
I'll say one thing though. the IPL, IMHO, is a disaster waiting to happen. It has become too big too quickly, essentially a bubble. Most IPL teams are worth more than some top English premiership teams. So the revenue necessary to justify these investments has to be enormous. and if such revenue cannot be generated the IPL bubble will burst and there might be substantial ramifications for international cricket. I am telling this as someone who has experience in the equities market.
I'm not as sure about it as to predict that this will definitely happen. But it is one of my worst fears. I fear it not because the IPL will collapse, but because it will have a disastrous affect on the finances of cricket as a whole.



Anti-UDRS.
I suppose I'm going to be thoroughly unpopular on this board; but the truth is that I for one am delighted with the BCCI stand on UDRS. In fact I think it is one of the best things for test cricket that the BCCI have ever done.

To me, UDRS as it is proposed to be implemented today is an abomination. A system which forces a batsman who has faintly nicked a ball and which has been well-caught, and who knows it very well, into thinking: "Now will this technology be able to show that I had nicked it?". One which rewards a batsman who would decide to challenge the correct decision of the umpire even when he knows it is correct; one which punishes a batsman who would just walk away when he is declared out and knows that he is out. One which places a premium on the totally anti-cricketing (to me) skill of disputing the decision of the umpire.

One that which induces an umpire to think: "I am not one hundred percent certain that the ball pitched in line with the stumps. Now let me see, the fielding team still has the right to question the umpires decision, and if i give it not out I may be made to look foolish. The batting team has no reviews left; at least I won't be subject to immediate embarrassment if I call it out."

One which believes that the fielding captain standing at mid-wicket should be given the right to challenge the decision of an umpire who has seen it from the best possible position in the field.

One which shows a nice manufactured graphic on the screen showing the ball hitting the stumps, and the commentators and the viewers - the more people are ignorant about projectile tracking technology, the more is their child-like belief in its infallibility - say: "it MUST BE INCONTROVERTIBLY TRUE that the umpire made a horrible decision there."

The problem is not fundamentally with using technology to assist decision making; it is with the obscene way it is proposed to be implemented.
 

dhillon28

U19 Debutant
Hmm... Is Indian influence good or bad for cricket? Unequivocally good, I would assert.

I think that it is vital for cricket that India, and every other country where cricket is a major sport has influence on the sport. Or we would be back to the dark days when only the founding members of the Imperial Cricket Conference had any influence. Don't think cricket will survive as a sport if that happens.

The interesting question, worthy of debate is: Is Indian dominance good or bad for cricket?

The catch is that the two parts of Indian dominance are inextricably tied to each other. India, as the dominant contributor to the finances of cricket, and BCCI as the dominant cricket board in the ICC. As long as the revenue model is lopsided, the level of influence will also remain lopsided. As in most sports today, we have to solve the economic problem first, before we attempt to find an answer to the political problem.
ICC- Imperial Cricket Conference.....LMAO!
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
I suppose I'm going to be thoroughly unpopular on this board; but the truth is that I for one am delighted with the BCCI stand on UDRS. In fact I think it is one of the best things for test cricket that the BCCI have ever done.

To me, UDRS as it is proposed to be implemented today is an abomination. A system which forces a batsman who has faintly nicked a ball and which has been well-caught, and who knows it very well, into thinking: "Now will this technology be able to show that I had nicked it?". One which rewards a batsman who would decide to challenge the correct decision of the umpire even when he knows it is correct; one which punishes a batsman who would just walk away when he is declared out and knows that he is out. One which places a premium on the totally anti-cricketing (to me) skill of disputing the decision of the umpire.

One that which induces an umpire to think: "I am not one hundred percent certain that the ball pitched in line with the stumps. Now let me see, the fielding team still has the right to question the umpires decision, and if i give it not out I may be made to look foolish. The batting team has no reviews left; at least I won't be subject to immediate embarrassment if I call it out."

One which believes that the fielding captain standing at mid-wicket should be given the right to challenge the decision of an umpire who has seen it from the best possible position in the field.

One which shows a nice manufactured graphic on the screen showing the ball hitting the stumps, and the commentators and the viewers - the more people are ignorant about projectile tracking technology, the more is their child-like belief in its infallibility - say: "it MUST BE INCONTROVERTIBLY TRUE that the umpire made a horrible decision there."

The problem is not fundamentally with using technology to assist decision making; it is with the obscene way it is proposed to be implemented.
That's one of the dumbest posts I've read, congratulations.
 

Teja.

Global Moderator
One which shows a nice manufactured graphic on the screen showing the ball hitting the stumps, and the commentators and the viewers - the more people are ignorant about projectile tracking technology, the more is their child-like belief in its infallibility - say: "it MUST BE INCONTROVERTIBLY TRUE that the umpire made a horrible decision there."

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Hawkeye>Borges & Shastri watching on TV and the umpire watching it with his naked eye. That is all.
 

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