Who would be the better captain

[smash84]

yeah that is what I read about Ian Chappell too. That he would inspire his men to give it all. Quite an attacking captain too

 

[Burgey]

yeah that is what I read about Ian Chappell too. That he would inspire his men to give it all. Quite an attacking captain too

He was. Sadly I think he emphasises the attacking aspects too much these days in commentary, doesn't factor in flatter wickets, faast outfields, higher scoring rates etc.

 

[Cevno]

Not sure how Bradman would have taken being captained by someone as fully in control and officious as AB or "Captain Grumpy" as they called him.

 

[Furball]

Of those likely to be picked in the XI, Bradman would get the gig I suppose, but Border's captaincy seemed to get better as he got older. He certainly said he enjoyed having Warne in the side - said those last couple of years were his most enjoyable as captain. In this company, he might have been more aggressive, who knows? Afte the Madras tied test, he only ever declared again at Customs.

I think any Aussie player from Border's era, bar absolute masochists, would have enjoyed the 1992-95 era more than the 1985-89 era.

 

[archie mac]

Not sure how Bradman would have taken being captained by someone as fully in control and officious as AB or "Captain Grumpy" as they called him.

On the other hand you would think Border would be happy to play under Bradman

 

[Leathered]

As an Englishman I have always been impressed with what AB did after the Aussies reached such a low point in the early 1980's. He gave them a real grit and determination that seems to have laid the foundations for such a golden era in more recent years. But would he have suited the all conquering teams in more recent times? Hard to say.

For me though, Ricky Ponting is not getting the credit he deserves. The records just stacked up wildly under his leadership and I can't believe it's purely down to team selection.

 

[Top_Cat]

Agreed. Reading some posts here, you'd think all he had to do was rock up and submit the batting order, making sure everyone arrived on time (in fairness, with Symonds in the side, that would have been a full-time job). A perfect example of a team brimming with talent and failure as a team simultaneously is and has always been Pakistan, really. They've had their periods as a team but you know the final supporting stick in the Jenga pile that is the Pakistan team is never far away from being pullled. Team balance and leadership are and will always be crucial no matter how many guns are in the side (not suggesting Ponting is an awesome captain either).

As for the question, it's actually quite tough. As alluded to by Burgey, AB, full of shots when he first played Tests, would probably have been a far less conservative captain if he didn't have the experience of captaining the 80's side so it makes you wonder. I'm really not sure but my gut says Bradman.

 

[archie mac]

As an Englishman I have always been impressed with what AB did after the Aussies reached such a low point in the early 1980's. He gave them a real grit and determination that seems to have laid the foundations for such a golden era in more recent years. But would he have suited the all conquering teams in more recent times? Hard to say.

For me though, Ricky Ponting is not getting the credit he deserves. The records just stacked up wildly under his leadership and I can't believe it's purely down to team selection.

I don't know how RP was on man management but never happy with his bowling changes or use of his bowlers. Well behind Taylor and Waugh for mine

 

[deeps]

Would have to be Steve Waugh.

 

[Leathered]

I don't know how RP was on man management but never happy with his bowling changes or use of his bowlers. Well behind Taylor and Waugh for mine

Do you think it would be fair to say that Waugh had more at his disposal though? I can remember he and his twin brother both knocking over quite a few wickets with the ball and the likes of Michael Bevan doing the same useful job when there was a need to try a different approach. Has RP had the same resources? I don't think so but I'm working from memory and from a neutral point of view. Perhaps some of our Aussie friends will tell me otherwise.

 

[archie mac]

Do you think it would be fair to say that Waugh had more at his disposal though? I can remember he and his twin brother both knocking over quite a few wickets with the ball and the likes of Michael Bevan doing the same useful job when there was a need to try a different approach. Has RP had the same resources? I don't think so but I'm working from memory and from a neutral point of view. Perhaps some of our Aussie friends will tell me otherwise.

No he took over a declining team still was never impressed with his bowling changes. Sometimes the Aussies would be struggling for hours to obtain a breakthrough and he would just keep rotating the same four bowlers

 

[smash84]

No he took over a declining team still was never impressed with his bowling changes. Sometimes the Aussies would be struggling for hours to obtain a breakthrough and he would just keep rotating the same four bowlers

Are you talking about Waugh here or RP Singh???

 

[archie mac]

Are you talking about Waugh here or RP Singh???

Ponting

 

[smash84]

Ponting

haha......dude I know you were talking about Waugh or Ricky Ponting but wanted to know if in the post that I quoted you were referring to RP or Waugh. I just added Singh to add a lighter touch to RP's last 3 years