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*Official* Indian Premier League 2011

Who will win the Indian Premier League 2011?


  • Total voters
    33
  • Poll closed .

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Uthappa is a must for T20's.. and I feel he should get the spot over Yusuf Pathan for the #7 spot in ODI's as well. Such a gun finisher.
He is hardly a finisher.

Can't really remember him exactly finishing off any game ,tbh.

Pathan is more likelier of the 2 to really hit big innings when he gets set and also hit better bowlers out of the park and can bowl too.
Though it a close call ,i would give the edge to Pathan in that one ever so slightly.
 

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He is hardly a finisher.

Can't really remember him exactly finishing off any game ,tbh.

Pathan is more likelier of the 2 to really hit big innings when he gets set and also hit better bowlers out of the park and can bowl too.
Though it a close call ,i would give the edge to Pathan in that one ever so slightly.
There was that one ODI in England in 2007, the game where we tied the series 3-3.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/258476.html
 
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Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
He is hardly a finisher.

Can't really remember him exactly finishing off any game ,tbh.

Pathan is more likelier of the 2 to really hit big innings when he gets set and also hit better bowlers out of the park and can bowl too.
Though it a close call ,i would give the edge to Pathan in that one ever so slightly.
Maybe because he hasn't played any ODI's since 2008? He hasn't been given a chance in the longest time. And when exactly does Pathan get a chance to get set? That's the whole point. The Indian batting line up cannot offer Pathan a chance to get set on most occasions. And he's not good enough for me when coming in during the 42/43'd over. He needs to come around 34/35th and that rarely happens. Hit better bowlers? Like who exactly? Uthappa has a more diverse set of shots and is better against fast bowlers at the death than Pathan. Simple as that. But yes I would Back Pathan to get a bigger score coming in around the 35th over.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
For all this talk about Uthappa vs. Pathan in ODIs, Raina has that spot ahead of them right now tbh.
 

Blaze 18

Banned
That knock against England was a pretty chancy one, if I'm remembering correctly. Lots of edges. (No idea what that adds to the discussion :p)

With the imminent retirements of both Tendulkar and Sehwag, chances are you'll see both Yousuf Pathan and Robin Uthappa in the ODI side soon.
 

Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
For all this talk about Uthappa vs. Pathan in ODIs, Raina has that spot ahead of them right now tbh.
That I know. And deservedly so. I'm just saying that purely on a finisher basis Uthappa is better than Pathan. So should there ever be a vacancy for the #7 position it should go to Uthappa and not Pathan.

Here are some of Uthappa's earlier exploits down the order.

10th Match: Australia v India at Sydney, Feb 24, 2008 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
4th ODI: India v Australia at Chandigarh, Oct 8, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
6th ODI: India v Australia at Nagpur, Oct 14, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
7th ODI: India v Australia at Mumbai, Oct 17, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
I guess Manish Pandey would walk straight into the pune warriors team in place of Mithun Manhas once his suspension is over.
Would make them stronger. Manhas is not really a t20 player.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
This is why Uthappa is worth his dollars.

Hilarious when people claim that players like Uthappa and Tiwary are overpaid in the auction threads. They're good at the format. Deal with it.
They're only overpaid in the sense that batsmen are over-valued in T20s - for the price of Gautam Gambhir, you could have landed yourself Zaheer, Steyn and Ohja.

Good Indian players were always going to fetch big sums of money, as it's the Indian Premier League. People going on about guys like Uthappa being overpriced clearly don't understand how the market works.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
That I know. And deservedly so. I'm just saying that purely on a finisher basis Uthappa is better than Pathan. So should there ever be a vacancy for the #7 position it should go to Uthappa and not Pathan.

Here are some of Uthappa's earlier exploits down the order.

10th Match: Australia v India at Sydney, Feb 24, 2008 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
4th ODI: India v Australia at Chandigarh, Oct 8, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
6th ODI: India v Australia at Nagpur, Oct 14, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
7th ODI: India v Australia at Mumbai, Oct 17, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
He did not really finish any of the matches.

And for all those matches there is a longer list than Pathan's that he has failed in .
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
That I know. And deservedly so. I'm just saying that purely on a finisher basis Uthappa is better than Pathan. So should there ever be a vacancy for the #7 position it should go to Uthappa and not Pathan.

Here are some of Uthappa's earlier exploits down the order.

10th Match: Australia v India at Sydney, Feb 24, 2008 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
4th ODI: India v Australia at Chandigarh, Oct 8, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
6th ODI: India v Australia at Nagpur, Oct 14, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
7th ODI: India v Australia at Mumbai, Oct 17, 2007 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Yeah I rate Uthappa too. I reckon in 2009 I was one of the few guys left who still rated Uthappa and Rohit Sharma. Everyone rates Uthappa again... however I may still be alone on Rohit :ph34r:

If Sachin ever retires I'd be happy with this:

Sehwag
Gambhir
Kohli
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Raina
Uthappa
 
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Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Maybe because he hasn't played any ODI's since 2008? He hasn't been given a chance in the longest time. And when exactly does Pathan get a chance to get set? That's the whole point. The Indian batting line up cannot offer Pathan a chance to get set on most occasions. And he's not good enough for me when coming in during the 42/43'd over. He needs to come around 34/35th and that rarely happens. Hit better bowlers? Like who exactly? Uthappa has a more diverse set of shots and is better against fast bowlers at the death than Pathan. Simple as that. But yes I would Back Pathan to get a bigger score coming in around the 35th over.
He hasn't been given a chance because he had plenty of them and mostly failed plus has not exactly done anything special in the domestic competitions.
Can't really keep giving him chances again and again with others around.

He is the type of player who one innings looks great and is remembered for that by most fans but you have to remember the other 3 that atleast come along with that and how he had brain farts in those.
 

Himannv

Hall of Fame Member
Vinay Kumar only bowled 3 overs. :dry:

I don't understand what is the point of leaving your best bowler for the last over. Often it doesn't get there or they're defending 2 runs.

Mahela's captaincy has been awful.
Agree that Mahela doesn't pull his weight with the bat often enough but other than that he had to back his specialist bowlers. At 14 to win off 12 he had to hope that it would indeed hold out till the last over IMO.

One of the weakest teams on paper I reckon. Going to be a tough tournament for them.
 

blahblahblah

International 12th Man
Yeah I rate Uthappa too. I reckon in 2009 I was one of the few guys left who still rated Uthappa and Rohit Sharma. Everyone rates Uthappa again... however I may still be alone on Rohit :ph34r:

If Sachin ever retires I'd be happy with this:

Sehwag
Gambhir
Kohli
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Raina
Uthappa
and thats for tests or ODIs?

coz i surely want to see 3 faces in there, and theya re Rayudu,pujara and Rahane

and i reckon even sehwag will retire by time sachin retires
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Mahela is a gun captain usually. Which is why his last two performances confuse me.

I'm sure he'll click with the bat soon. I just think captains are too obsessed with leaving their better bowlers for the last over when in T20s the match can be over (actually or basically) by then.
 

Contra

Cricketer Of The Year
He did not really finish any of the matches.

And for all those matches there is a longer list than Pathan's that he has failed in .
No not really. Pathan has failed a ton of times despite the fact that he's been given a fair run in a specific position. Uthappa in his career has opened, batted in the middle order and lower down the order as well. It can be really annoying when you asked to in one place in 1 match and another in some other match. If you take a look at the 2 series in 2007 against Aus and Pak he got a chance to bat up the order as well. And his scores (baring 1 match) weren't good. Yet he scored when batting lower down. I don't think that's a coincidence. I'm also considering the overall package here. Uthappa's field > Pathan. Pathan can bowl but I don't consider it a massive plus point. With Yuvraj in full flow along with Kholi and Raina that's a nice group of fields we got. Thrown in Uthappa (even though he's a keeper these days) and it's even better.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
and thats for tests or ODIs?

coz i surely want to see 3 faces in there, and theya re Rayudu,pujara and Rahane

and i reckon even sehwag will retire by time sachin retires
ODIs man. No way Uthappa or Raina should be playing test cricket when you have Badrinath, Pujara and Rahane around.
 

Cevno

Hall of Fame Member
Would stink if the likes of Jadeja,Uthappa,Vijay,Tiwary,Sharma all get their places back for India based on the IPL again.
 

blahblahblah

International 12th Man
oh my god, i dont veen want to think about ravindra jadeja again

hes gone and we won the world cup

now please dont bring him back ...
 

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