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*Official* Match 36 - England v West Indies

Who will win this match?

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Mr Mxyzptlk

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Ironically, though people will criticise the gung-ho approach, the wickets have not fallen to big shots. Rather, they've been to defensive shots, or shots for ones and twos.
 
Woodster

Woodster

International Captain
tooextracool said:
If we look at the highest score on this pitch for the last 3 innings, it cannot have been much more than 60 or so that Bopara got. This seems to suggest that a 'big' score or a long innings is not on the cards. Certainly all of their batsmen so far have batted with this idea in mind.
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Surely today that has been down to poor batting rather than anything to do with the pitch. I'm sure with the right application a big and long innings is more than achievable.
 
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tooextracool

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Really hate it when captains do this kind of stuff. Isnt it obvious that the only way to win for England from here is to take wickets? What on earth is the point of trying to get Bresnan to get through his 10 overs cheaply with the new batsmen out?
 
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tooextracool

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Woodster said:
Surely today that has been down to poor batting rather than anything to do with the pitch. I'm sure with the right application a big and long innings is more than achievable.
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Pitch is still turning square. If you want to look at things another way, the quality of bowling has been pretty terrible, certainly worse than the game vs SA.
 
Woodster

Woodster

International Captain
All the West Indian eggs now in this particular basket. This partnership is obviously crucial as there are very few able to offer sufficient support below them in the order, or so you would think.
 
Woodster

Woodster

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tooextracool said:
Pitch is still turning square. If you want to look at things another way, the quality of bowling has been pretty terrible, certainly worse than the game vs SA.
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Just because the pitch has turned does not mean a substantial individual innings is out of the question. Personally I think a good quality batsman can score plenty of runs in one innings on this pitch against any attack. Sarwan now having to bat with the pressure of being five wickets down and little support in the batsmen to come. It may well still pay off for the WI, I don't think their tactics have helped though with regards the batting order.
 
shivfan

shivfan

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As a batsman, KP needs to keep quiet and concentrate on batting....
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He's losing his concentration, getting involved in bickering....
 
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tooextracool

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Dont think the 5 wickets down thing would have changed, except Sarwan would have had to bat for longer. As I said earlier, their batting order problem was compounded by their poor selection process. They effectively only bat till 4 with all rounders coming in after that. They obviously believe that Sarwan is the man to bat under pressure so whether he comes in at 80/1 or 120/4 would appear to make no difference to him, it would only mean he has less runs to chase down.
 
Mr Mxyzptlk

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tooextracool said:
Dont think the 5 wickets down thing would have changed, except Sarwan would have had to bat for longer. As I said earlier, their batting order problem was compounded by their poor selection process. They effectively only bat till 4 with all rounders coming in after that. They obviously believe that Sarwan is the man to bat under pressure so whether he comes in at 80/1 or 120/4 would appear to make no difference to him, it would only mean he has less runs to chase down.
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Doesn't often happen, but I agree entirely with TEC. This could easily have been my post.
 
Himannv

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tooextracool said:
Dont think the 5 wickets down thing would have changed, except Sarwan would have had to bat for longer. As I said earlier, their batting order problem was compounded by their poor selection process. They effectively only bat till 4 with all rounders coming in after that. They obviously believe that Sarwan is the man to bat under pressure so whether he comes in at 80/1 or 120/4 would appear to make no difference to him, it would only mean he has less runs to chase down.
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Surely giving him more time to play himself in is a better approach?
 
Woodster

Woodster

International Captain
Well for me you give your best batsman the best chance to score make a substantial contribution to winning your side the game. One wicket here and England will now fancy their chances of getting through WI. Although with anymore smacks like that from Pollard this could be over pretty soon.
 
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