Can Tendulkar get 100 international hundreds?

[salman85]

I don't get the logic that some people have - If an old player has a bad series, retire to make way for others. If an old player has an average series, he has lost his 'touch' and should retire. If an old player has an excellent series, he should retire on a high.

How about we just let the man play till hes no longer useful to the team?

Going by that logic,some of the greatest sporstmen in history should have kept on playing.And retiring on a high is definitley a better option than retiring when you aren't useful.There's something called legacy and integrity,and that something kind of takes a hit when you retire because you aren't useful anymore.

 

[Teja.]

I'd say retiring on a high to 'preserve your legacy' is a much more selfish decision than playing on till your till you're not in the 6 best bats in the country, particularly when the player who is going to replace you will most likely score 20 runs less per Innings than you(Considering the form Tendulkar's in). Obv. if he loses interest in the game, It's his choice but otherwise it's stupid to ask him to retire atm.

The test team is heavily reliant on Tendulkar, particularly away. The man averages 82 in tests and 76 in ODIs since the beginning of 2010, The 'selfish' argument holds no weight at all. He's a better run accumulator now than at any point of his career.

 

[Jono]

God I hate the 'retiring on a high' viewpoint. One of my biggest bugs in cricket.

No one remembers the last few years when you go on too long anyway. Not after a while. They remember the majority of your all-time great career.

 

[Daemon]

Going by that logic,some of the greatest sporstmen in history should have kept on playing.And retiring on a high is definitley a better option than retiring when you aren't useful.There's something called legacy and integrity,and that something kind of takes a hit when you retire because you aren't useful anymore.

whats the point of retiring when you are in good form and winning matches for your team? trying to preserve your legacy is more selfish than retiring after a form slump imo.

 

[salman85]

Ofcourse a great player will be known as a great player no matter how his career ends,but why take the risk of having a blotch on an otherwise legendary career?The man has achieved everything the game had to offer.This is his last World Cup regardless of wether India wins or not,so carrying on playing after this for sheer statistical value is not the greatest option in the world IMO.

Plus it's not like India is a team that cannot survive if it's best player retires.They've always produced great batsman,and while they might never produce anyone as good as Tendulkar,they've got enough batting talent to come in as a replacement and do well.Kohli and Raina could well form the backbone of their team in the future when Tendulkar retires so both of them could have an extended run in the team together.And there are probably many other young talented batsmen who can do well for India.

If Indian cricket was in dire straits,then you could have an argument in favor of Tendulkar sticking around till things get better.But that is not the case.India is enjoying it's best years in a long time,and their new generation of players has played a big part in it.They've got other youngsters waiting in the wings.The man has achieved everything,broken every batting record on the face of the planet,if there was ever a time to wave the game goodbye,this is it.

 

[Howe_zat]

The time to wave goodbye is when he isn't one of the best 6 batsmen in India any more, same as everyone else.

This isn't that time.

There's no reason for a batsman to retire just because he's had such a good career. Same reason why if he weren't making any runs, it wouldn't grant him an automatic right to play either. He should be judged under the same criteria as everyone else, namely whether or not he is more likely to make runs in the next match.

If you are talking about bringing youngsters through, there is an argument for that (I would personally consider dropping Dravid for Kholi, for example, that's debatable) but no way do you drop your best batsman. Especially not for the sake of a "legacy" that he's bound to be granted no matter what.

 

[Jono]

^ Exactly.

It's not complicated. Sachin plays for India. Unless he doesn't enjoy playing anymore, he should play until India no longer requires his services. That will occur when he's not one of India's six best batsmen.

Simple really.

 

[Jono]

Ofcourse a great player will be known as a great player no matter how his career ends,but why take the risk of having a blotch on an otherwise legendary career?The man has achieved everything the game had to offer.This is his last World Cup regardless of wether India wins or not,so carrying on playing after this for sheer statistical value is not the greatest option in the world IMO.

Plus it's not like India is a team that cannot survive if it's best player retires.They've always produced great batsman,and while they might never produce anyone as good as Tendulkar,they've got enough batting talent to come in as a replacement and do well.Kohli and Raina could well form the backbone of their team in the future when Tendulkar retires so both of them could have an extended run in the team together.And there are probably many other young talented batsmen who can do well for India.

If Indian cricket was in dire straits,then you could have an argument in favor of Tendulkar sticking around till things get better.But that is not the case.India is enjoying it's best years in a long time,and their new generation of players has played a big part in it.They've got other youngsters waiting in the wings.The man has achieved everything,broken every batting record on the face of the planet,if there was ever a time to wave the game goodbye,this is it.

Maybe India want to win in Australia later this year hey? And without Sachin they'd be very unlikely to do that.

 

[biased indian]

Maybe India want to win in Australia later this year hey? And without Sachin they'd be very unlikely to do that.

we are touring Aus this dec- jan ? how many test ?

 

[Teja.]

The strength of the Indian batting domestic depth is pretty overrated tbh. Pujara and Raina are not assuredly quality. The only batsman I reckon who could come in and certainly be a very good batsman for India is Badrinath and the selectors won't pick him. Kohli has all the talent in the world but he still hasn't been picked yet. But still we're going to have to fill a lot of spots in the batting and we'd be incredibly thankful if even one of the Pujaras, Rahanes and Kohlis turn out to be as good a test bat as Laxman, leave alone Dravid or Tendulkar.

Sometimes we take the sheer wealth of our batting order for granted. It is very likely that our batting will be completely ****ed on away tours outside the SC in 5-6 years time IMO. Retiring Tendulkar before the England series' will be pretty dumb IMO. There's no guaranty Sehwag will be of any quality in England and Dravid's not the batsman he was, We really need someone to stand up and score a lot of runs.

The difference between most other players who retired on a high and Tendulkar atm is that while they were still incredibly good players, they were still past their peak, Tendulkar is arguably in the middle of the best period of his career. 2010 was the best year of his career and it is simply no time to tell him to retire.

 

[Teja.]

we are touring Aus this dec- jan ? how many test ?

4, as usual, I think?

 

[vcs]

Tendulkar's appetite for runs is quite remarkable considering his age and accumulated wear and tear of 21 years of cricket.

 

[Howe_zat]

we are touring Aus this dec- jan ? how many test ?

4 Tests, 5 ODIs and 1 T20.

 

[salman85]

The strength of the Indian batting domestic depth is pretty overrated tbh. Pujara and Raina are not assuredly quality. The only batsman I reckon who could come in and certainly be a very good batsman for India is Badrinath and the selectors won't pick him. Kohli has all the talent in the world but he still hasn't been picked yet. But still we're going to have to fill a lot of spots in the batting and we'd be incredibly thankful if even one of the Pujaras, Rahanes and Kohlis turn out to be as good a test bat as Laxman, leave alone Dravid or Tendulkar.

Sometimes we take the sheer wealth of our batting order for granted. It is very likely that our batting will be completely ****ed on away tours outside the SC in 5-6 years time IMO. Retiring Tendulkar before the England series' will be pretty dumb IMO. There's no guaranty Sehwag will be of any quality in England and Dravid's not the batsman he was, We really need someone to stand up and score a lot of runs.

The difference between most other players who retired on a high and Tendulkar atm is that while they were still incredibly good players, they were still past their peak, Tendulkar is arguably in the middle of the best period of his career. 2010 was the best year of his career and it is simply no time to tell him to retire.

You'd know more of the Indian Domestic circuit than me,but i'll be very VERY surprised if the selectors don't have replacements for Dravid,Laxman and Tendulkar in mind right now,regardless of whenever these three decide to call it a day.Kohli is probablt the one being moulded into one of those replacements,in order to be the kingpin of India's batting in the future.

I still don't think India's batting will suffer the same way that Australia's bowling did when their best players retired,but let's see.

 

[ankitj]

Tendulkar is arguably world's best batsman today, not just India's (won the ICC Cricketer of the year award, last year!). He should not retire, if you ask me. At most bid good bye to ODIs to concentrate on tests.

 

[Maximus0723]

The 'Your' in your sentence would have been valid.The year 1947 had other ideas though.

 

[marc71178]

Whilst Dravid is still playing and Waterboy is around the squad, there's absolutely no reason for Tendulkar to retire.

 

[Bun]

Ofcourse a great player will be known as a great player no matter how his career ends,but why take the risk of having a blotch on an otherwise legendary career?The man has achieved everything the game had to offer.This is his last World Cup regardless of wether India wins or not,so carrying on playing after this for sheer statistical value is not the greatest option in the world IMO.

Plus it's not like India is a team that cannot survive if it's best player retires.They've always produced great batsman,and while they might never produce anyone as good as Tendulkar,they've got enough batting talent to come in as a replacement and do well.Kohli and Raina could well form the backbone of their team in the future when Tendulkar retires so both of them could have an extended run in the team together.And there are probably many other young talented batsmen who can do well for India.

If Indian cricket was in dire straits,then you could have an argument in favor of Tendulkar sticking around till things get better.But that is not the case.India is enjoying it's best years in a long time,and their new generation of players has played a big part in it.They've got other youngsters waiting in the wings.The man has achieved everything,broken every batting record on the face of the planet,if there was ever a time to wave the game goodbye,this is it.

It is cruel to dismiss Tendulkar's intention to play on, as just for statistical value. The great man himself has time and again clarified he plays the game because he loves to play it, and that he takes big pride in his team's success. So the argument stands on very shaky ground.

While indeed Indian cricket is enjoying relatively a prosperous time in the last few years, it is quite easy to forget Tendulkar's own contribution in this period. He has been, by a mile, their best batsman in ODIs and tests, particularly the latter, and has been uniformally consistent as well.

There is no real point in the argument for "making way for youngsters". Youngsters by definition need not get such leeway from existing senior players, just because they're young. Instead, they need to stake their claim. If some young player is denied a spot in the XI, only because an existing senior is taking up that place by name more than by recent performances, then he should go. One can argue Rahul Dravid is doing that to Badrinath/Pujara etc in tests but in Sachin's case it is a strawman, atleast for the time being. He is still atleast 2 test series away from such a situation.

 

[Blaze 18]

If India win the World Cup, he'll retire from ODI cricket. It's as simple as that. Here's hoping Tendulkar gets his 50th ODI hundred and India win the World Cup.

 

[Prince EWS]

Whilst Dravid is still playing and Waterboy is around the squad, there's absolutely no reason for Tendulkar to retire.

Well, Waterboy's not still in the squad.