World Class list

[kingkallis]

I agree, Haddin surely is as good as Prior or Dhoni there.

 

[Uppercut]

Well they don't pick Duminy over Prince, and he's young, has a good First Class record, has been awesome in ODIs, offers a more useful bowling option to them than Mathews and tasted Test success early on before falling away a bit.

Let me put it another way - I wouldn't pick Mathews over Prince.

Me neither, but then that isn't really the point. I could have used Ashwell Prince as an example too- what test side wouldn't he make it into? He'd be a fantastic option at 3 for India, given his relative abilities against pace and spin.

These players are quite clearly not world-class, so I think we need a new definition. For batsmen, at least.

 

[Furball]

I agree, Haddin surely is as good as Prior or Dhoni there.

Ignoring what any of them bring to the table with the bat, no he isn't.

 

[Uppercut]

Better than Dhoni for mine. Don't really have an opinion on Haddin or Prior which is probably a good sign but I don't rate Dhoni with the gloves at all, especially given that he plays for India because he's soo dire keeping to spin.

 

[Himannv]

Ponting's been in bad form recently but he's definitely World Class based on past performances. There was a time he couldn't stop scoring runs. You didn't even have to watch the match to guess that he scored yet another hundred.

As for Mathews, too early to call. Going to be optimistic though and say that the best is yet to come from him.

 

[Prince EWS]

Ponting's been in bad form recently but he's definitely World Class based on past performances.

Well, so's Greg Chappell tbh. Frankly I'd think about advocating his dropping him from the Australian team if I thought they'd replace him with someone decent (both as a player and as captain). I'm definitely a class-over-form guy normally, but I don't think this is poor form as much as it is a decline. Thought the same about Hussey too mind you.

 

[Himannv]

Well, so's Greg Chappell tbh. Frankly I'd think about advocating his dropping him from the Australian team if I thought they'd replace him with someone decent (both as a player and as captain). I'm definitely a class-over-form guy normally, but I don't think this is poor form as much as it is a decline. Thought the same about Hussey too mind you.

I suspect that its decline as well but I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt. Great player and lovely to watch but probably a few games against Sri Lanka are in order. I feel all these great players come out of their shells a bit against us.

 

[Howe_zat]

Ignoring what any of them bring to the table with the bat, no he isn't.

Pretty huge thing to ignore given it's why all of them are there.

 

[Burgey]

What about Jerome Taylor when he's fit? I know he's injured a lot but he's often struck me as a good performer that not many take liberties against.

Mind you, I can't actually remember the last time I saw him play.

 

[Spark]

1st test down here wouldn't it be? Bowled OK there.

 

[Eds]

Going by Prince's definition of World Class, I actually think Tremlett is. Not that I actually feel he's World Class myself, but yeah, I'd put him in every other test side.

 

[Burgey]

1st test down here wouldn't it be? Bowled OK there.

Yeah I think so. Has he played much since then? Poor bugger seems injured so much. Edwards has been out a while too hasn't he?

 

[morgieb]

Yeah I think so. Has he played much since then? Poor bugger seems injured so much. Edwards has been out a while too hasn't he?

Edwards hasn't played for like 18 months iirc. And Taylor's fitness has been on and off for ages.

 

[Furball]

Ponting's been in bad form recently but he's definitely World Class based on past performances. There was a time he couldn't stop scoring runs. You didn't even have to watch the match to guess that he scored yet another hundred.

As for Mathews, too early to call. Going to be optimistic though and say that the best is yet to come from him.

Past performances are irrelevant when you're looking at who's world class right now. Ponting hasn't been anything like a world class Test batsman for at least 18 months.

 

[Cevno]

Don't think India would drop Sehwag or Gambhir for anyone at the moment.

 

[Xuhaib]

I would take Ryder and Broad out of PEWS list add Mo Yo rest will be the same maybe Sarwan?

 

[vcs]

Better than Dhoni for mine. Don't really have an opinion on Haddin or Prior which is probably a good sign but I don't rate Dhoni with the gloves at all, especially given that he plays for India because he's soo dire keeping to spin.

I don't see many keepers, apart from P. Jayawardene, who are better than Dhoni at keeping to spin.

 

[TumTum]

Haddin is really dire against spin, we don't see it thought because our spinners hardly ever get edges behind.

 

[smash84]

He is not that bad against spin. Well he hasn't had the chance to show his skill because the Aussie spinners are dire these days.......but the guy is really gritty and although his batting might not be in the same class as Dhoni the guy has a more gritty attitude than Dhoni IMO.

 

[vcs]

He is not that bad against spin. Well he hasn't had the chance to show his skill because the Aussie spinners are dire these days.......but the guy is really gritty and although his batting might not be in the same class as Dhoni the guy has a more gritty attitude than Dhoni IMO.

Interesting.. I'd say exactly the opposite about their batting.

Haddin has played a lot more "gritty" innings in recent times, TBF. He's a much more "talented" and technically correct batsman than Dhoni, though.