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Who the better batsman

  • Ajay Jadeja

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  • Mahmudullah

    Votes: 10 83.3%

  • Total voters
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Neil Pickup

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Would want him in the team just to see the comedy value of him batting with Watson.
Yeah, this. Would end in tears almost every time... and then you've got to hide him in the field. I've always thought that if Samit Patel couldn't be bothered to lose weight with an England career on offer, then it said a huge amount about discipline and self-control. Not sure Australai need another slacker in the side.
 

Bun

Banned
Cossie :wub: He has to lose a few pounds but he looks the best young batsman currently down there. I really rate him
 

Debris

International 12th Man
A first-class average of 44 does not inspire confidence (Hughes for example is 49). If he is struggling to dominate first-class, what is going to happen when he goes up a level.

I think he still has a few issues with consistency.
 

robelinda

International Vice-Captain
A first-class average of 44 does not inspire confidence (Hughes for example is 49). If he is struggling to dominate first-class, what is going to happen when he goes up a level.

I think he still has a few issues with consistency.
Clarke was only averaging 37 when picked for the test team, no reason why they couldnt punt on someone averaging more than that. Ferguson, White, Marsh all in that boat too.
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
Clarke was only averaging 37 when picked for the test team, no reason why they couldnt punt on someone averaging more than that. Ferguson, White, Marsh all in that boat too.
And it was a mistake that we'd been able to afford at the time, not so now.
 

adamj1300

Cricket Spectator
I think comparing Cosgrove to Hayden as a 'large bloke' is a bit insulting to Hayden tbh.

Cosgrove was squeezed into his uniform last night like a stuffed lemon and was nearly run out several times before his eventual dismissal. I'd consider him for tests but we can't afford two poor runners between the wickets in our ODI batting line up.
and the teem can afford to carry spuds like an out of form hughes who has a noted problem with lack of foot work and bad technique.that has been dropped and told to fix it, still gets selected with the same problem.

and michael clark who has always been an over rated dud is nothing but a flat track bully and an end of series specialist who scores his runs at the end of a series when the pressure is off, and the series has been won or lost. he has had it easy behind greats in the likes of hayden, langer ponting, martyn, and waugh.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
Clarke was only averaging 37 when picked for the test team, no reason why they couldnt punt on someone averaging more than that. Ferguson, White, Marsh all in that boat too.
He was only 23 tbf. Plus it was obvious after about 10-20 tests that he wasn't up to scratch yet.

and the teem can afford to carry spuds like an out of form hughes who has a noted problem with lack of foot work and bad technique.that has been dropped and told to fix it, still gets selected with the same problem.

and michael clark who has always been an over rated dud is nothing but a flat track bully and an end of series specialist who scores his runs at the end of a series when the pressure is off, and the series has been won or lost. he has had it easy behind greats in the likes of hayden, langer ponting, martyn, and waugh.
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Bun

Banned
And it was a mistake that we'd been able to afford at the time, not so now.
Australia really aren't spoilt for choices at the moment. Even though Cosgrove is averaging only 44, I guess he should still be around the top of the list for U-30 FC cricketers in Australia.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Don't think the Australian's can afford to be so picky about weight issues at the moment.

If he is good enough they should pick him as a batsmen.

Their selectors won't have picked Inzamam,Ranatunga or Aravinda at the moment if they had the chance? Hell,i think they would have picked Ramesh Powar too by now .

And is he fatter than Warne,btw?:ph34r:
TBF Cosgrove considerably chunkier than any of them. Unless he's slimmed down dramatically since the end of our summer. Not quite Leverockesque, but would be the plumpest test cricketer since Ollie Milburn I'd guess.

He's huge.



Would pick him for all that. I'm not sure in the current climate Oz can afford to be quite so prescriptive in their picks. & is a weight problem really more of an impediment to a test career than a ****ty technique (Hughes) or duff shot selection (Smith)?
 

Noble One

International Vice-Captain
From the Big Bash game last night, Cosgrove looked bigger than ever.

I still don't believe he is in the top 6 batsman in this country though.
 

outbreak

First Class Debutant
Cosgroves got the talent but they can't pick him in his current form or it'll send a bad message for the rest of the side and for the shield. I don't think he has too many issues with running between the wickets myself, the other night he was being pushed for some very tight singles and the judgement of tassies runs was TERRIBLE all game. He had a great season with Glamorgan last year aswell. If he could lose some weight he'd be top shelf but i think even he's given up now, in last years english t20 he listed his toughest opponent as the fitness trainer :P
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
I saw him a few times playing for Glamorgan last year and his weight didn't seem to be much of an issue. With Samit Patel he really looks to be blowing out of his arse after a long innings, but Cos played some sizeable ones and didn't seem to run out of steam.

Bowls at a decent lick too; was up around and even over 80mph when he sent down a few overs.
 

Midwinter

State Captain
It's the amount of runs he could score that is the question not his weight
The next question is how many is he likely to give away in the field ?.

As shown in this series the fielding has gone downhill as well.
 

Redbacks

International Captain
Cosgroves got the talent but they can't pick him in his current form or it'll send a bad message for the rest of the side and for the shield.
Is that physical or cricket form?

After Khawaja he's the next best run scorer in the shield this season - 510 @56.67.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
It's the amount of runs he could score that is the question not his weight
The next question is how many is he likely to give away in the field ?.

As shown in this series the fielding has gone downhill as well.
Already answered.

Definitely good enough, good fielder too despite weight. Great hands.

Won't be a guy who gets big tons unless he does it at a run-a-ball, though. Gets out a lot between 50 and 80 too, conversion rate sucks. In the current line-up, that could be a real liability.
 

andyc

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
If he was scoring mountains of runs, his weight wouldn't matter, ala Boof Lehmann. As it is, he's doing well enough to be a first pick for any state team (except maybe a full-strength NSW), but needs to do a fair bit more to make the national team, you'd feel. That's if he was in good shape; being a fattie means he'd have to do that much more to convince the selectors.
 

robelinda

International Vice-Captain
Dont know why he was dropped from the aussie team in the first place, he did fine in the odi's he's played.
 

adamj1300

Cricket Spectator
Cosgroves got the talent but they can't pick him in his current form or it'll send a bad message for the rest of the side and for the shield. I don't think he has too many issues with running between the wickets myself, the other night he was being pushed for some very tight singles and the judgement of tassies runs was TERRIBLE all game. He had a great season with Glamorgan last year aswell. If he could lose some weight he'd be top shelf but i think even he's given up now, in last years english t20 he listed his toughest opponent as the fitness trainer :P

at least he is inform and has talent! picking out of form duds from NSW is the better option?
 

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