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England can beat India "every day of week": Gough

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Agree and I don't think even the most one eyed England fan would believe that
lol yeah... but some of the posting by esp. a couple of English posters have just been as cringe worthy as gvenkat there.. FFS, this is India and England.. Pretty inconsistent sides even now.. It is not like either of these teams are as good as the 80s Windies or the noughties Aussies..
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
51 pages? :wacko:

As for Darren Gough, the guy is a clown. Knows **** all about cricket (or football :laugh:). Cringe worthy listening to him on Talksport. Even on Talk****e, an amateur station, this guy is out of his depth.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
lol yeah... but some of the posting by esp. a couple of English posters have just been as cringe worthy as gvenkat there.. FFS, this is India and England.. Pretty inconsistent sides even now.. It is not like either of these teams are as good as the 80s Windies or the noughties Aussies..
How are India, a side that haven't lost for 9 series and won 7 of them, and England, who are unbeaten in 7 series and won 5 of them (6 if they don't lose at Sydney) inconsistent?
 

smash84

The Tiger King
How are India, a side that haven't lost for 9 series and won 7 of them, and England, who are unbeaten in 7 series and won 5 of them (6 if they don't lose at Sydney) inconsistent?
He means that they are not as dominant as the WI of the 1980s or the Aussies under Waugh. They are prone to a lot of collapses and don't have streaks such as 16 consecutive wins and so on.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
He means that they are not as dominant as the WI of the 1980s or the Aussies under Waugh. They are prone to a lot of collapses and don't have streaks such as 16 consecutive wins and so on.
It's still bull**** to call both sides inconsistent, when they have been consistently winning series for the last 18 months (England) and 2 and a half years (India).

If India and England both win the Tests they're involved in, they will have won 8/10 and 6/7 series respectively in their unbeaten period - that's excellent consistency.
 

smash84

The Tiger King
It's still bull**** to call both sides inconsistent, when they have been consistently winning series for the last 18 months (England) and 2 and a half years (India).

If India and England both win the Tests they're involved in, they will have won 8/10 and 6/7 series respectively in their unbeaten period - that's excellent consistency.
it is not bull**** to call them that. These sides (Eng this summer) can lose tests to hopeless sides like Pakistan and where their top order almost throughout the series was worse than ****. When the WI or Aussies were dominating the other sides felt that they had no chance. With Ind or Eng the other sides feel that they have a chance because these sides slip up much more often than the Aussies or Windies of 90s and 80s.

The inconsistency is not in winning series as much as inconsistency in the quality of performance.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
it is not bull**** to call them that. These sides (Eng this summer) can lose tests to hopeless sides like Pakistan and where their top order almost throughout the series was worse than ****. When the WI or Aussies were dominating the other sides felt that they had no chance. With Ind or Eng the other sides feel that they have a chance because these sides slip up much more often than the Aussies or Windies of 90s and 80s.

The inconsistency is not in winning series as much as inconsistency in the quality of performance.
But their performance is consistently good for them to consistently win series.

Inconsistent is the wrong term. I agree that neither side is yet on the level of the West Indies or Australia sides of the past, but to suggest two teams who consistently win series are inconsistent is wrong. India have lost only 3 of their last 26 Tests, England have won 14 of their last 23 Tests. They're not inconsistent.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Perhaps a better way to put it is that India and England can lose or play damn poorly to most teams at any time, home or away.

India vs. NZ recently and England vs. Pakistan and Australia (Perth) recently show that.
 

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