*Official* New Zealand in India 2010

[Chewie]

If Patel takes a bagful, Athlai is going to be unbearable.

I was reading your ICC story, and I have to say that even though I haven't been here for long I can completely see that happening

He won't though so I think we're all safe from that horror

 

[Flem274*]

irrotev will be banned here too before long tbh.

 

[irottev]

Probably. I'm life banned from there haha.

 

[Athlai]

Yeah I'll be absolutely dreadful when Jeets gets his well deserved due.

 

[Craig]

Yeah I'll be absolutely dreadful when Jeets gets his well deserved due.

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[Shri]

Yeah I'll be absolutely dreadful when Jeets gets his well deserved due.

irottev is Jeets?

 

[BeeGee]

If NZ play conventionally in this test series they're going to be butt raped. The gulf in talent between the two sides is of Grand Canyon proportions. Don't play conventionally!

What I want to see from this NZ team is hard core aggression. I hope Vettori throws the "Spirit of Cricket" ICC award out the window of the bus on the way to the first test match. They need to get in the faces of the Indian players. Get angry. Set aggressive fields and challenge the Indian batsmen to hit over the top. Put fielders at deep fine leg and deep square leg, give Bennett the new ball and tell him to bowl as fast as he can at the Indian batsmen's throats. Vettori should bowl early, with close fielders all around the bat, all sledging their arses off, especially to Sehwag.
When was the last time you saw Martin get angry at a batsman? Has he ever? Get angry you lame ****!!!
Vettori should lock Ryder in a cage for a week before the first test, poking him with a pointy stick every hour. Then unleash him on the poor unsuspecting Indians.
McCullum, Taylor and Ryder need to go after the Indian bowling.

Aggression, aggression, aggression!!!

 

[Jarquis]

You gotta get angry! You gotta get MEAN! That's the only way you can play!

 

[lockton2skipper]

got to agree, pointless playing dreary medium pacers and off spinners, might as well go all out give it what they got and if nz loose tough but it's better than going through the same old routine. attack with bennett mckay and southee, vettori and williamson as spinners and mccullum ryder and taylor to play their shots.

 

[aussie]

Nathan McCullum would be a dire selection. He's not the third best spinner in the country, and even if he was, he shouldn't be picked even if he's a gun fielder and can bat. He is a top List A spinner but does not have the assets for test cricket.

Well i would ask who the third best long version spinner in NZ. But i see the debate has already brought up a few names.

As we already know NZ domestic cricket is not especially strong & McCullum & Patel have similar daft FC records. While Patel in his test career has conclusively proven he is not test quality.

If McCullum where playing, he is likely to get smashed just a much a Patel. But as is said those extra runs down the other he would give, could save NZ @ some point in this series, if NZ play well enough to get themselves into such a position.

Also of course given most you NZers would have seen more of N McCullum than me. I believe you a mischarterising his bowling slightly. Since i have certainly seen him bowl more than just darts in international & county cricket.

I corrected most of the typos but there was little else I could for this train wreck of a post.

Ha. Well excuse me for having a POV on a cricketchat forum.

Its all good though. I shall return the favour to you personally anytime i see you make a post in a thread about AUS & ENG team selection. It would be the least i can do.

 

[aussie]

got to agree, pointless playing dreary medium pacers and off spinners, might as well go all out give it what they got and if nz loose tough but it's better than going through the same old routine. attack with bennett mckay and southee, vettori and williamson as spinners and mccullum ryder and taylor to play their shots.

I agree with this line of thinking for sure for any team. But India is one place unless you have a great team & quality pace attack which NZ dont, such a tactic can back fire seriously. So with the clear deficiences NZ have, striking the balance between attack & defense is key.

 

[BeeGee]

Well i would ask who the third best long version spinner in NZ. But i see the debate has already brought up a few names.

As we already know NZ domestic cricket is not especially strong & McCullum & Patel have similar daft FC records. While Patel in his test career has conclusively proven he is not test quality.

If McCullum where playing, he is likely to get smashed just a much a Patel. But as is said those extra runs down the other he would give, could save NZ @ some point in this series, if NZ play well enough to get themselves into such a position.

Also of course given most you NZers would have seen more of N McCullum than me. I believe you a mischarterising his bowling slightly. Since i have certainly seen him bowl more than just darts in international & county cricket.

Kane Williamson is as good a FC spin bowler as McCullum or Patel, and he's a hell of a lot better batsman. I'd like to see him playing in that no. 6 spot as a genuine all-rounder.

Patel is in the team as a specialist 12th man. Have you seen him deliver spare batting gloves and drinks to the batsmen between overs? He's world class, none better. Playing him out of position would be a disaster, imo.

 

[NZTailender]

Considering he hasn't even got a provincial contract... Even though I am a ND supporter I'd say Beard is the next best spinner in NZ, and he showed that with some good performances in Zimbabwe and on the Emerging Players tour.

Yeah not a bad call actually. Would think selectors rate him enough for him to go on an A tour early in his career. Seemed to perform well too.

 

[Shri]

The kiwis do know how to have conversation about their team. Gotta give em that.

 

[aussie]

Kane Williamson is as good a FC spin bowler as McCullum or Patel, and he's a hell of a lot better batsman. I'd like to see him playing in that no. 6 spot as a genuine all-rounder.

Patel is in the team as a specialist 12th man. Have you seen him deliver spare batting gloves and drinks to the batsmen between overs? He's world class, none better. Playing him out of position would be a disaster, imo.

Haha. Well no i have heard Williamson can bowl, but yet to see him bowl or play actually (did he play againts AUS earlier this year?). But ye such a role for Williamson sounds good instead of N McCulllum for sure, if you kiwis have such faith in his ability.

 

[Howsie]

Nathan McCullum isn't good enough for test cricket, period. He's a bits & pieces cricketer who would look way out of his depth at test level.

Anyway, if the New Zealand selectors had any sense they wouldn't play Jeetan Patel unless Vettori got injured, or one of the pitches was suppose to be a massive turner. I think most of us agree that Patel is going to be rather ineffective during this series, we can only hope the selectors see that too. Kane Williamson didn't exactly get through a lot of overs last season in domestic cricket - I think it was about 15 overs a game on average but he's good enough to do more IMO. Yeah, he doesn't exactly keep it tight but he looks to take wickets. He gives it plenty of flight and gives the ball a decent rip, give him 15-20 overs a day and he'll do well enough.

 

[irottev]

Patel is in the team as a specialist 12th man. Have you seen him deliver spare batting gloves and drinks to the batsmen between overs? He's world class, none better. Playing him out of position would be a disaster, imo.

Hahaha too true.

As for N McCullum he has attitude problems anyway. He's a nobody player yet i've heard he sledges other players and stuff. You saw him do it vs Bangladesh when we were getting raped. He also throws the ball unnecessarily hard to the keeper which is a broken finger waiting to happen because he needs an ego boost seeing himself throwing the ball fast. Him and Patel are both useless ****s.

Oh and Shri, no i'm not Jeets haha, Jeets is Jeetan Patel's nickname.

 

[Chewie]

N McCullum isn't a 'nobody player', he just wouldn't be useful in test cricket. His T20I record is pretty decent, especially his economy rate of 6.45, and over the past year in ODI cricket he averages 34.5 at an economy rate of 4.2. This compares rather favourably to other spinners who have bowled in at least 5 innings over the past year, especially when you remove associate bowlers Statsguru. He can also bat alright down the order, though more often than not gets out before getting in. His record shows that he is a useful bowler to have in short form cricket; much more useful than Jeetan. And he is better than other bits and pieces players used by NZ recently (Diamanti, Thomson). But I do agree, he wouldn't be useful in test cricket.

 

[Halfpast_Yellow]

Vettori should lock Ryder in a cage for a week before the first test, poking him with a pointy stick every hour. Then unleash him on the poor unsuspecting Indians.

Haha, this is excellent.

 

[vcs]

Kane Williamson is as good a FC spin bowler as McCullum or Patel, and he's a hell of a lot better batsman. I'd like to see him playing in that no. 6 spot as a genuine all-rounder.

Patel is in the team as a specialist 12th man. Have you seen him deliver spare batting gloves and drinks to the batsmen between overs? He's world class, none better. Playing him out of position would be a disaster, imo.