*Official* Australia in India 2010

[G.I.Joe]

It's scrape the bottom of the barrell time, but surely even Praveen Kumar would have been a better choice than Unadkat. Unadkat got spanked royally in the tour game IIRC.

 

[andyc]

On the ODI squad, we had a pretty young/depleted side last time we were there for one day stuff IIRC, and I'm pretty sure we at least drew, if not won, that series (cbf looking it up).

 

[Contra]

Who?

Surely Vijay and Sreesanth or Kumar?

Vijay and Sree are already in the squad. The other guys are just replacements for Gambhir and Ishant being ruled out for the rest of the series. They won't get a game most likely.

 

[morgieb]

Who?

Surely Vijay and Sreesanth or Kumar?

Young batsman and quick for India.

According to Cricinfo Vijay and Sreesanth are in the squad though.

 

[Jono]

On the ODI squad, we had a pretty young/depleted side last time we were there for one day stuff IIRC, and I'm pretty sure we at least drew, if not won, that series (cbf looking it up).

Won it.

 

[Manee]

It's scrape the bottom of the barrell time, but surely even Praveen Kumar would have been a better choice than Unadkat. Unadkat got spanked royally in the tour game IIRC.

Unadkat also has not even played a Ranji Trophy game!

For anyone interested, this is him bowling Duminy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G10mnA9zCGE

 

[Kylez]

Haha, wow, just saw the squad for the ODIs

Squad: Michael Clarke (capt), Cameron White, Doug Bollinger, Callum Ferguson, Nathan Hauritz, James Hopes, Mike Hussey, Shaun Marsh, Clint McKay, Tim Paine (wk), James Pattinson, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, David Warner

I'll be quite surprised if we pull out a victory here. Very, very surprised.

Would of thought that somebody like Siddle or Nannes would of made that squad.

The bowlers should be: Bollinger, Mckay, Pattison, Hauritz, Smith and Hopes. One of those players will probably miss out though in the first game.

Hazelwood is injured to answer Flem's question I think it was. Ferguson to hopefully bat up the order .

 

[Flem274*]

Unadkat also has not even played a Ranji Trophy game!

For anyone interested, this is him bowling Duminy...

YouTube - Jaydev Unadkat to JP Duminy

Meh. Praveen Kumar ftw.

 

[Jono]

Vijay and Sree will be the replacements. They've likely brought in Unadkat and Mukund for the experience of being around the squad.

 

[vic_orthdox]

Really think that Warner could be something special on the subcontinent tracks.

 

[Uppercut]

Have to say I found the ending quite farcical. One umpire gives the match to Australia and the other gives it back to India. Thought it was a shame that such a great match ended that way.

Desperately in need of some UDRS.

 

[Prince EWS]

Would explain the increase in CW forum members in the last few years.

CricketWeb is dire when Australia lose IMO. Not because of members from other countries gloating either, but because of all the usual Australian suspects who make appearances to blame the loss on politcs/umpire/selection/old players/young players/the captain and just refuse to accept that sometimes you can pick your best team or close to it and simply get outplayed by the opposition.

Now, Marcus North should not be in the team; I think pretty much everyone can agree on that now. Hussey's also debatable. However, losing a Test to India in India by one wicket does not mean our fundamental selection policy is wrong or that there's "nothing to lose" and we might as well throw a bunch of completely random players who people happen to like into the team. Calls in this thread at various points to drop Ponting, Clarke, Hilfenhaus, Bollinger and Hauritz are ridiculous. Most importantly though it certainly doesn't mean we should start picking young players for the sake of them being young and ditch one of the things that has made Australian cricket so strong over the last 15 years - picking the best team at all times and only selecting players when they've proven they deserve it. Australian cricket is still very strong at the moment; there's no reason to panic or go to outrageous lengths.

 

[social]

Would of thought that somebody like Siddle or Nannes would of made that squad.

The bowlers should be: Bollinger, Mckay, Pattison, Hauritz, Smith and Hopes. One of those players will probably miss out though in the first game.

Hazelwood is injured to answer Flem's question I think it was. Ferguson to hopefully bat up the order .

Many are either resting/practicing for Ashes or retired from ODIs

Anyway, no point burning Siddle in India for an ODI series no-one will remember when he is on the way back from injury and with the Ashes just around the corner

 

[Manee]

Meh. Praveen Kumar ftw.

Yeh, he is a bit meh. You can see that he will seam the ball and get a bit of zip with that action but not Test standard yet, surely, not after 4 FC matches.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Unadkat also has not even played a Ranji Trophy game!

yeah, this is very perplexing. Jono's point is a good one, but knowing our bowlers, there's a fair chance Sreesanth could pull out at the last minute and we'd have a rookie playing with the big boys!

 

[Prince EWS]

Many are either resting/practicing for Ashes or retired from ODIs

Anyway, no point burning Siddle in India for an ODI series no-one will remember when he is on the way back from injury and with the Ashes just around the corner

Would've been a good way for him to get more match fit IMO.

 

[Jono]

Any captain did what Ponting did - you want to try and get the lesser batsman on strike and get as much of a go at him as possible. Crack through Ishant, and then you have 70 or so runs to throw it all at Ojha.

In the end, you have to say "Great job, Ishant", because he's given his bowlers every chance.

EDIT: Things can change as you get closer, but with that many runs to go then it's the right decision.

Also, can understand why he took the slip out, when the ball begins exploding and pitch is fairly slow in the first place. Think the quicks got only one ball caught at slip for the whole Test.

Ponting is most definitely not alone in thinking this tactic is the right move, but that doesn't make it any better IMO.

On paper it seems sensible (hence why so many do it), but this Yousuf-esque strategy has proved a failure on many occasions. The fact that Pasag and others specifically pointed this out before day 5 even started, shows how predictable it was that Ponting would do it, and additionally, that it wouldn't work.

Now sure, Laxman could have taken those singles, and Ishant could have been bowled for 1 (5) and we're not talking about it. But it took around 10 deliveries for me to be assured that Ishant was going to get behind the ball, and play sensibly. He looked pretty solid.

On top of that, there was enough in the wicket to try and have a crack at Laxman. You got out Sehwag, Raina, Gambhir, Dravid and Tendulkar. Back your bowlers to get out Laxman too.

It's an awful strategy. For every time that it works, there is an example of it going awfully wrong (many involving Hussey). Its demoralising for your bowlers as well, when they know that the next ball they bowl to the recognised batsman is a definite single, and no chance of a wicket unless you bowl them or get an LBW.

 

[Manee]

yeah, this is very perplexing. Jono's point is a good one, but knowing our bowlers, there's a fair chance Sreesanth could pull out at the last minute and we'd have a rookie playing with the big boys!

Yes. Surely we can't have such a rookie in the Test squad, in case Sreesanth does get injured. I'd think the Aussies could ruin the young lad.

 

[Prince EWS]

I'm gonna be honest and say that I don't think I'd pick Starc in a full-strength NSW Second XI. Promising cricketer but he's been shown some serious faith at this point.

 

[Flem274*]

CricketWeb is dire when Australia lose IMO. Not because of members from other countries gloating either, but because of all the usual Australian suspects who make appearances to blame the loss on politcs/umpire/selection/old players/young players/the captain and just refuse to accept that sometimes you can pick your best team or close to it and simply get outplayed by the opposition.

Now, Marcus North should not be in the team; I think pretty much everyone can agree on that now. Hussey's also debatable. However, losing a Test to India in India by one wicket does not mean our fundamental selection policy is wrong or that there's "nothing to lose" and we might as well throw a bunch of completely random players who people happen to like into the team. Calls in this thread at various points to drop Ponting, Clarke, Hilfenhaus, Bollinger and Hauritz are ridiculous. Most importantly though it certainly doesn't mean we should start picking young players for the sake of them being young and ditch one of the things that has made Australian cricket so strong over the last 15 years - picking the best team at all times and only selecting players when they've proven they deserve it. Australian cricket is still very strong at the moment; there's no reason to panic or go to outrageous lengths.

AWTA. I think I'm one of the few people who likes Nathan Hauritz. He's never going to rip through India in India or Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka, but he can contribute and he'll always be solid against the other test nations home and away.

And if he gets a turner against one of the non-SL/India teams, look out.

Yeh, he is a bit meh. You can see that he will seam the ball and get a bit of zip with that action but not Test standard yet, surely, not after 4 FC matches.

Nah, leave him be for now I agree.