*Official* Australia in India 2010

[Jayzamann]

All the pacers got wickets, Hilf and George got two each. 6/143 in reply to 505, North smashed (and I mean smashed) 124 retired.

Buuuut I suppose a performing North is good for Australia.

 

[Xuhaib]

Buuuut I suppose a performing North is good for Australia.

North barring Pakistan has done well many players have had one bogey side so its unfair to call for North's head atm if he has another average series then I guess it should be curtains for him.

 

[kingpin]

shh...What happened to Gauti...

 

[Jayzamann]

North barring Pakistan has done well many players have had one bogey side so its unfair to call for North's head atm if he has another average series then I guess it should be curtains for him.

I'd probably agree with you if I weren't so irrational over my dislike of North. The fact that he drilled out his customary big ton after a bunch of failures, in the warm-up match, remains to be the object of my ire during this tour.

 

[Spark]

We'll see. There's no doubt he's a good player, but he's the most unstable player in a middle order wracked by instability. Even in a technically weaker (a middle order of Ponting Clarke and Hussey looks pretty damn good on paper) but more consistent batting order I'd be more happy with a player like North because when he gets going he's tough to stop.

 

[GotSpin]

Very poor player is North. Will be very surprised if he gets any sort of decent score in the tests

 

[Jono]

Did Chawla smash Hauritz or something?

 

[Prince EWS]

Did Chawla smash Hauritz or something?

Yeah

 

[Spark]

Very poor player is North. Will be very surprised if he gets any sort of decent score in the tests

True, but once he gets to 20...

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I see that Hauritz and Smith got a bit of a hammering.

 

[Daemon]

Where abouts can we get scores guys? Don't even know how we finished up. And who's taken the wickets for us please?

It's up on the front page of Cricinfo.

And looking at how Chawla has treated the two spinners, things aren't looking too good for them

 

[Teja.]

SPD Smith 2 0 20 0 10.00

Haha, Welcome to India, Smith!

 

[GotSpin]

To be honest, I think we should expect very little from our spinners this tour. It is promising, however, that our pace bowlers appear to be on target

 

[morgieb]

North barring Pakistan has done well many players have had one bogey side so its unfair to call for North's head atm if he has another average series then I guess it should be curtains for him.

Norff would've been good like 2 years ago, but our batting's too inconsistent for someone like him. And we can't dispense Ponting or Hussey, so he has to go.

 

[Daemon]

Can Australia consider playing another pacer in place of Hauritz? Clarke and Smith could bowl if the need arises, because atm Hauritz doesn't seem like taking any wickets or troubling the Indian batsmen. tbh the only reason I feel he is playing is to complete the 'formality' of having a spinner. The fast bowling on the other hand, has been of really high quality, with George and Mitchell, two new talents on the sidelines as well.

Although four specialist pacers together with Watson would be a bit of an overkill :S

 

[Jarquis]

Pushy

 

[Ikki]

Anyone watching this? How is George bowling?

 

[aussie]

And everyone hates the way a few members consistently turn otherwise decent threads into quote-bore-athons or sidetrack topics onto their personal hobby horses. I'm not making a suggestion for you to take or leave - I'm warning you as a member of the mod team to stop posting in a particular way in this thread. You don't like it? Send a message to the moderators@cricketweb.net email account. If you decide to ignore mod warnings, you're going to end up bring sanctioned again. Any other posts in this thread from you that are considered to be derailing the thread will likely be deleted.

My apologies i didnt realise you where a moderator. Will do as you say.

They weren't missing anyone. You set out a criteria that India would be a much weakened team with two of Raju/Chauhan/Bahutule/Joshi/Chopra etc.. and I showed it's not necessarily the case if the team steps up and performs. The 2001 series against Australia was another example. Hence, a couple of absences through injury is not an excuse and if you bring it up to discredit another side's victory, you will be rightly called out on it.

Let's end it here.

Clearly you didn't read or failed to understand the other parts of the post you didn't not quote, since all you doing here is repeating the same points i disapproved:

Unless you are legendary team & have great depth such as AUS (95-2006/07), WI (76-91), ENG (51-58) for eg with wonderful depth, when you lose key players in your team due to injury/etc, the strenght of your team willl be instantly cripped. Especially when facing strong opposition, you cannot be expected to be as lethal/competitve & win (althoughsuch teams could get away with beating weak teams, if they lose key players)

IND beating ENG in 92/93 proves the bolded portion. IND would never beat a stronger opposition like AUS, SA, SRI, PAK (during the 90s) @ home over the last 15 years if one of Kumble/Harbhajan wasn't playing.

Also im quite sure before the 2001 series IND (especially after the drubbing they got in 1st test), would have secretly moaning not having Kumble around. But as i told you before, that series win was won by once in life-time brilliance that may not be replicated for ages if ever again - so what occured in that series can never be used a guide to likely future test outcomes in any circumstances, given the freakishness of the performances.

The fact that IND beat in 2001 without Kumble & just Bhaji proved to AUS ATT, althought they where a GREAT team, they still a MASSIVE achillies heel facing average/decent/quality spin bowling in the SC turners (which they later correct in 2004 in SRI & IND). Thats all - it had nothing to do with the IND bowlers & if Kumble had played AUS would have struggled even more ATT.

But yes we have to end this now, cause the mods said so.

 

[aussie]

Can Australia consider playing another pacer in place of Hauritz? Clarke and Smith could bowl if the need arises, because atm Hauritz doesn't seem like taking any wickets or troubling the Indian batsmen. tbh the only reason I feel he is playing is to complete the 'formality' of having a spinner. The fast bowling on the other hand, has been of really high quality, with George and Mitchell, two new talents on the sidelines as well.

Although four specialist pacers together with Watson would be a bit of an overkill :S

It woont be overkill if the majority of fast-bowlers can reverse-swing the ball on a wearing wicket, which would adequately make up for Hauritz likely inability to utilize such conditions.

I would definately support an all-pace attack for AUS if Siddle or Harris where fit. I'm yet to see young George bowl, so i cant advocate for him to start, since im not sure if his style of bowling is suited to bowling in IND.

 

[Shri]

Aus reverse swung the ball in the last series, they just got it after 70 overs while Zak and co got it to reverse as early as the 20th over and it was ineffective since the batsmen had got the team to a good position. When Aus are bowling this time, the reverse swing that they will get is just going to be the difference between a 300+ score and a 400+ score. Aus will show a much better batting performance this time with Zak being rusty and the rest being out of form.

And hence, the series win(if Aus win) will not count since Zak is rusty, Ishant is in decline and Bhajji and the spinners are out of form. aussie rules of course.

 

[vcs]

Aus reverse swung the ball in the last series, they just got it after 70 overs while Zak and co got it to reverse as early as the 20th over and it was ineffective since the batsmen had got the team to a good position. When Aus are bowling this time, the reverse swing that they will get is just going to be the difference between a 300+ score and a 400+ score. Aus will show a much better batting performance this time with Zak being rusty and the rest being out of form.

And hence, the series win(if Aus win) will not count since Zak is rusty, Ishant is in decline and Bhajji and the spinners are out of form. aussie rules of course.