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*Official* Australia in India 2010

vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

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Spark said:
...as opposed to? I mean, he's not brilliant but none of them really are. Ponting and Hussey are somewhat past it...
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He attempts to play in a way like Damien Martyn, but doesn't get as far forward or back as Martyn did. He's more prone to falling over at the crease, whereas Martyn (and Sehwag, in a similar nature) always keep their eyes level and themselves balanced.

YouTube - Broad and Swann batter Aussies - Oval highlights

Example at about 1:40.
 
vic_orthdox

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letahlhughes said:
35 in test cricket?I doubt he'd average that much.Wade's keeping is pretty handy not as bad as you seem to think.The point is that he's a much better batter than Paine.Wade's only 22 that probably has worked against him since aussie selectors seldom pick guys at that age.But if Wade continues as he has surely he would have jumped Paine by then.
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I agree, with regards to Wade's batting being very good and a level above Paine's (or at least the potential to be) but I can guarantee that I've seen more of Wade's wicketkeeping than most, up until last season, and it still leaves a fair bit to be desired, especially up to the stumps.
 
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Awesome delivery tbf.

But yeah, don't find Haddin especially convincing. Almost invariably goes AWOL when needed the most.
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

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It's a good delivery, but it's not like it swung around corners. It's one of those wonderful balls that just does enough.

Because of Haddin's head, he's trying to play it square of mid-wicket or square leg, when the ball was never going to miss the stumps in the first place.
 
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letahlhughes

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vic_orthdox said:
I agree, with regards to Wade's batting being very good and a level above Paine's (or at least the potential to be) but I can guarantee that I've seen more of Wade's wicketkeeping than most, up until last season, and it still leaves a fair bit to be desired, especially up to the stumps.
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Fair enough.But from what i saw of Wade he was rather impressive.
 
NUFAN

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andyc said:
Sorry Aussie, but I think you're a bit unfamiliar with Smith here. The guy averages 55+ after his first season in Shield cricket. To say that his role is to average 35-40 with the bat and bowl leggies is frankly incorrect. Were the selectors to get it right, then he would be earning his spot largely based on his batting, bat in the top 6 and bowl as a second spinner to Hauritz, at least for now.
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I'm interested in hearing why you would say that (the bolded part). I think the Australian selectors would LOVE Smith to average 40 with the bat over his first 30-40 Tests of his career.

His bowling needs so much work still, he's the 8th best bowler in most Aussie XI's at the moment.
 
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letahlhughes

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Smith should be able to average more than 40 surely if picked at the right time and if given the right role which is a batsman first and foremost.Thats assuming ofcourse he doesn't go down hill from here.Its apparent to me because Smith has potential with his bowling people have the misconception that he's or will become a bowling all rounder and his batting is not good enough.Smith is already a gun bat and we must always remember he's only 21.
 
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kingpin

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letahlhughes said:
Smith should be able to average more than 40 surely if picked at the right time and if given the right role which is a batsman first and foremost.Thats assuming ofcourse he doesn't go down hill from here.Its apparent to me because Smith has potential with his bowling people have the misconception that he's or will become a bowling all rounder and his batting is not good enough.Smith is already a gun bat and we must always remember he's only 21.
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Anything may happen to him i mainly treat him as Batting all-rounder.....I have never seen Smith bowling to be dangerous or effective........
 
kingpin

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letahlhughes said:
Didn't you see his bowling in the 20 20 match against Windies especially the ball to Pollard?
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T20...naaa....aren't we talking about Tests...uh

And moreover one from one t20 match....well i you cant judge him..Seen his bowling in finals...didn't look effective...

He may prove me wrong in coming up Series :)
 
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NUFAN

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letahlhughes said:
Smith should be able to average more than 40 surely if picked at the right time and if given the right role which is a batsman first and foremost.Thats assuming ofcourse he doesn't go down hill from here.Its apparent to me because Smith has potential with his bowling people have the misconception that he's or will become a bowling all rounder and his batting is not good enough.Smith is already a gun bat and we must always remember he's only 21.
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There are so many conflicting messages about Steve Smith at this stage in his career.

If he couldn't bowl he wouldn't be in the Australian test squad yet. He's been selected to bat at 8 so he is not 'already a gun bat' despite having a nice start to his first class career.

If Smith does play in India expect a Cam White V2.0 series.
 
Spark

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letahlhughes said:
I'm not saying Paine is all crap, i just think he's a bloody good keeper and an average batter at best.He would be far from the one day team if i was a selector let alone open the batting.Paine might look good at the crease but batting is about scoring runs, especially in odi where scoring at a brisk rate is essential Paine only has 1 gear really.But yes players improve so who knows in 2 years time he might become the real deal.I'm just not sold on him now that's all, i love the look of Wade though, he's seriously good.
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ODI I agree he's terrible, like watching Clarke from 2 years ago only more painful because he's opening and hence in during PP. I was talking about tests though.
 
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