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McCullum Gives Up Keeping in Tests

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Agreed. McGlashan and Kruger van Wyk are the best One Day keeper-batsmen by a distance (excluding McCullum, who is obv. better than both).
Has McGlashan been out of form?

After that gun 50 he scored against India in an ODI maybe he ran over a selector's cat or something.
Thought I would post my response here so as not to derail the tri series thread -

Yeah I don't know why McGlashan fell from grace. They gave him a run in 20.20s and when he failed there they dropped him from ODI consideration.

I am game to see anyone get a run ahead of Hopkins in the fight for McCullum's test spot. Kruger has the best average (35) apart from Hopkins so maybe he should get first dibbs...McGlashan's average of 29 is lower.

If we really really wanted to take a risk then we could give Watling the gloves as has been suggested in this thread earlier but this could cost you a test match if he dropped Yousuf on 5 runs for example. So I figure they will pick a specialist.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Na thats bull they just gave Hopkins the go ahead because they wanted him to play in all three forms.

Fair enough really, his failures in ODIs will probably end up hurting his Test chances which is a crock of ****.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Yeah Hopkins isn't the best batsman of the keepers, but he is the best keeper. We can hide him down at number eight in tests (and probably in ODIs when Vettori returns) and make use of his keeping skills.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Yeah Hopkins isn't the best batsman of the keepers, but he is the best keeper. We can hide him down at number eight in tests (and probably in ODIs when Vettori returns) and make use of his keeping skills.
McCullum's still going to keep in ODIs though.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Yeah Hopkins probably won't feature heavily in ODIs but this was giving him an extended run at international cricket.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
The person who should be doing that is MS Dhoni.

On a different scale, Prior besides being one of the best number seven batsmen in the world (and in England's test history) is probably the worst wicket keeper one has seen in nearly five decades of watching Test cricket. He would have been a laughing stock if the cricketing world was looking at where the keeper's gloves are in relation to the ball when it comes to him (standing up in particular) even half as closely as it looks at where Laxman's or Sehwag's feet are when they bat.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
The person who should be doing that is MS Dhoni.

On a different scale, Prior besides being one of the best number seven batsmen in the world (and in England's test history) is probably the worst wicket keeper one has seen in nearly five decades of watching Test cricket. He would have been a laughing stock if the cricketing world was looking at where the keeper's gloves are in relation to the ball when it comes to him (standing up in particular) even half as closely as it looks at where Laxman's or Sehwag's feet are when they bat.
Did you see him in his first series? He was even worse if you can believe it.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Did you see him in his first series? He was even worse if you can believe it.
I have never been immodest about my modest cricketing skills as a young man but whenever I se Prior keeping wickets I have always thought I was a better wicket keeper thirty five years ago . . . and it was not my main discipline . . . . besides the fact that I never even played first class cricket . . .
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Na thats bull they just gave Hopkins the go ahead because they wanted him to play in all three forms.

Fair enough really, his failures in ODIs will probably end up hurting his Test chances which is a crock of ****.
Fine you must be right - I always thought it was strange that they announced him (Mcglashan) as being our 20.20 specialist last year and then they never followed through on it. He got 1 chance vs SL. So there must have been a change in policy to make Hopkins the number 1 for all forms. At one point it was Reece Young as back up for tests, Hopkins for ODIs and McGlashan for 20.20s.

Anyhow - Who do you want as keeper for tests Athlai? you didn't say.
 

Athlai

Not Terrible
Fine you must be right - I always thought it was strange that they announced him (Mcglashan) as being our 20.20 specialist last year and then they never followed through on it. He got 1 chance vs SL. So there must have been a change in policy to make Hopkins the number 1 for all forms. At one point it was Reece Young as back up for tests, Hopkins for ODIs and McGlashan for 20.20s.

Anyhow - Who do you want as keeper for tests Athlai? you didn't say.
Want to give Hopkins his chance, he deserves it after his last FC season.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
The person who should be doing that is MS Dhoni.

On a different scale, Prior besides being one of the best number seven batsmen in the world (and in England's test history) is probably the worst wicket keeper one has seen in nearly five decades of watching Test cricket. He would have been a laughing stock if the cricketing world was looking at where the keeper's gloves are in relation to the ball when it comes to him (standing up in particular) even half as closely as it looks at where Laxman's or Sehwag's feet are when they bat.
I disagree. Prior's method might be unorthodox but by in large he gets the job done. He's not even the worst Test wicket keeper I've seen in the last 5 days, let alone the last 5 decades.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Bit harsh on Prior when we have Kamran Akmal.
I am afraid I have a different opinion. Kamran Akmal may have his bad days but he is basically a better keeper (in comparison). His footwork is better and he stays lower both of which keep his gloves closer behind the line (and height) of where the ball is than with Prior who needs to go to school really.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
Honestly think it's just mental with Akmal now. Thought he was pretty good when he first came onto the scene with his hands, reckon that by now he just has a brain freeze every time that the batsman touches it.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Honestly think it's just mental with Akmal now. Thought he was pretty good when he first came onto the scene with his hands, reckon that by now he just has a brain freeze every time that the batsman touches it.
If I dropped a couple of catches (or missed a run out) and the media went to town with dark murmuring about bad old days of match fixing, I would **** in my pants when there was a nick.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Hang on, if we're going to claim a batsman that has a poor technique but may be mentally tough and score runs is a better batsman than one with a good technique but is mentally weak and scores no runs, than the same should be done with keeping.

If Gayle is a better batsman than Ganga, than Prior is a better keeper than Akmal.
 
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