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*Official* Pakistan in England 2010

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
So I'm about to head home...I'm gonna get home to Broad & Swann still batting in an hour, right? Right?

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Faisal1985

International Vice-Captain
I really don't see why he should. Doesn't alter the fact that England have batted like retards, but it's hardly an unreasonable question.
You can argue all you want. Its been an Australian tradition before by all means adopt it in England too..its not going to get anywhere though..he was cleared by the ICC.. enough said...
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
You can argue all you want. Its been an Australian tradition before by all means adopt it in England too..its not going to get anywhere though..he was cleared by the ICC.. enough said...
His clearance was hardly a ringing endorsement.

Ajmal, however, will be permitted to continue bowling at the international level subject to certain conditions. The first of which is, "the effect of Elliott's report and any report from a biomechanical expert, cannot be to clear him without limitation in the future. The effect of Prof Elliott's report is simply to confirm that Ajmal is capable of bowling with an action which complies with ICC Regulations," said the release.

Second, "whenever Ajmal bowls in a match in the future, his action will be under the scrutiny of the match officials".

And finally, "according to the ICC regulations, the match officials will use the naked eye to determine whether his action complies with the Laws of Cricket. The permitted degree of elbow extension is 15 degrees and the level of tolerance was set at the point at which such elbow extension will begin to become noticeable to the naked eye. Accordingly, any degree of extension which is visible to the naked eye must and will be reported. "

Commenting on the results of the analysis and also restating the ICC's policy in relation to suspect illegal bowling actions, David Richardson, the ICC general manager, said, "Ajmal can continue to bowl in international cricket on the basis that he uses an action consistent to that used in the latest independent analysis of his action.

"However, it is important to emphasise that no bowler is ever 'cleared' as it is impossible to predict how a player might deliver the ball in the future. All bowlers are subject to further reporting if the match officials are of the view that they have concerns about whether a delivery or deliveries conform to the Laws of Cricket when observed with the naked eye."
 

Jacknife

International Captain
You'd have to think that's the game. We've seen Broad & Swann put on decent partnerships before, with batsmen and once that I can think of together, but this is a big ask. Would say we need to be near 200 to be in with a shout.
If these 2 can some how take the score up to 200,means them getting 30 each there abouts,would make it very interesting.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
You can argue all you want. Its been an Australian tradition before by all means adopt it in England too..its not going to get anywhere though..he was cleared by the ICC.. enough said...
I'm not arguing it either way. All I've said is people are entitled to ask the question. As GFB has indicated, the fact that he passed some test in artificial circumstances says nothing about how legitimately he bowls in future match situations.
 
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Spark

Global Moderator
Quality shot there (what was he actually trying to achieve? cricinfo says 'cut' but then that's the most moronic cut I've seen)
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
I'm not arguing it either way. All I've said is people are entitled to ask the question. As GFB has indicated, the fact that he passed some test in artificial circumstances says nothing about how legitimately he bowls in future match situations.
Was actually Scaly that said that.

If he's tested again and it's quite conclusive that he's not chucking it, I have no problems accepting that.

There is no denying that his action looks absolutely diabolical though, and I think it's worthy of being reviewed.

edit: I hope if he is reported he comes through it, I love watching a good spinner utterly bamboozle batsmen, England haven't a clue how to play Ajmal and it makes for great viewing.
 
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wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Was actually Scaly that said that.

If he's tested again and it's quite conclusive that he's not chucking it, I have no problems accepting that.

There is no denying that his action looks absolutely diabolical though, and I think it's worthy of being reviewed.

edit: I hope if he is reported he comes through it, I love watching a good spinner utterly bamboozle batsmen, England haven't a clue how to play Ajmal and it makes for great viewing.
fwiw I was paraphrasing the article that you posted. I just don't see the point of testing bowlers outside of match situations when they could just look at footage of what they're doing on the field. I couldn't argue with any of the above though.

Oh great - latest instalment of cricket truly being run by idiots as they go off for bad light despite the presence of floodlights. Nicely done boys.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
fwiw I was paraphrasing the article that you posted. I just don't see the point of testing bowlers outside of match situations when they could just look at footage of what they're doing on the field. I couldn't argue with any of the above though.

Oh great - latest instalment of cricket truly being run by idiots as they go off for bad light despite the presence of floodlights. Nicely done boys.
It does look very dark on the screen.

EDIT: This innings really does demonstrate just how important the big innings from a #4/5/6 at 3/150, 4/150, 4/170 etc. are. Doesn't look much but it's the difference between 350+ and 250 all out
 
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Furball

Evil Scotsman
Oh great - latest instalment of cricket truly being run by idiots as they go off for bad light despite the presence of floodlights. Nicely done boys.
Full shadows being cast by the lights. I'm reluctant to criticise the decision without any first hand experience of how difficult it is to pick a red ball in such circumstances.
 

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