Jacknife
International Captain
Agree with that from what I've seem of both sides.
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*Official* Pakistan in England 2010
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WindieWeathers
International Regular
That can't be true!!, aren't Pakistan meant to be "far and away the sixth best side"?!!
Neil Pickup
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Those gloves are legal. There is a massive difference between the webbing that we used to be able to get away with and the (comparably) miniscule lobes that are allowed today.
The black gloves below are my oldest pair that are now illegal under Law 40.2, while the white ones are new this season, a hundred times more comfortable and far less likely to lead to a finger break, but they make you catch it with your actual hands and fingers!
Neil Pickup
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You do need to get at least a little bit of finger and thumb to the ball with these ones! The old rules could allow you to hold on to a ball despite it not being in any contact with your digits. This webbing is now most useful when the fielders forget you're only 5'8 and fling the ball three feet over your head...
Avada Kedavra
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Who in the Bang line up is world class,apart from Tamim?Shakib maybe but that is about it.Salman>Tamim and Umar Akmal>Shakib.Nothing much between the rest though.
slowfinger
International Debutant
Umar and Kamran to win us the game, otherwise Umar Gul to hit 300 and get added onto the 'who will be the next to score 300?' thread, omg yes I did say that.
Scaly piscine
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On the limited evidence we have so far I think it's fair to say Tamim is better than any of the Pakistan batsmen playing in this match. The other Pakistan batsmen probably have an edge on the equivalent Bangladesh batsmen, but Bangladesh have a better tail.
Batting overall I say Pakistan are a little better, but there's not much in it.
Avada Kedavra
Banned
Not sure about that.Sure Tamim got a couple of tons in England but Salman's got a couple in Aus.But you are right - and it hurts me as a Pak fan to say this-there isn't much in it.Pak need Younus and Yosaf back desperately.
L Trumper
State Regular
Funny line that if you think SA won it 3-1, at the same time ENG won 2-1 in WI. India also scrapped to draw at lords only because of weather. So stop that bloody broken track record of SA should've won 3-1..
As far as England not belonging top 3, see their record once strauss came to helm, thats when the rebuilding started and they are on the ascendancy.. While all other teams above them with the exception of SA are descendant.
slowfinger
International Debutant
Bangladesh will become better than Pakistab simply because a>b, they can play in their own country without having 8 people dying with these terrorists. End of. No need to talk about any more because that is the dominating fact. What country plays their home game 800 miles from their country?
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
Clive Lloyd played home Tests over 1000 miles away from his country. So did Courtney Walsh.
Sir Alex
Banned
Funny you India is "descendant" (what does that mean), when Dhoni as captain is yet to lose a series, while Strauss has managed to lose one to West Indies of all teams.
Dhoni's record as captain
P : 15
W : 9
L : 2
D : 4
Series won: 5 (vs Aus, Ban,(A), NZ(A), Eng, SL)
Series drawn :2 (both SA - although he captained only 1 test in the 2008 series, which ind won)
series lost : 0
Strauss's
P : 24
W : 10
L : 3
D : 10
Series won: 5 (vs Ban, WI, WI(again), Pak, Aus)
Lost: 1 (W (a))
Drawn:1(SA (A)
So yet to win his first away series as captain I see..
Sir Alex
Banned
Pretty much all Indians do. So do Australians I guess.
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
Not quite - a West Australian playing in Brisbane is still playing in his own country
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
Sir Alex, the point made by L Trumper which you've not faced up to is that you're using double standards in saying in the same breath "England almost lost 3-1 in South Africa" and "England lost to the West Indies". Of course, they could have lost to SA, but in that elusive hypothetical world they could just as easily have beaten the WI.
You can't have it both ways.
You can't have it both ways.
Sir Alex
Banned
Apologies for the 3 AM blurry brained response
Sir Alex
Banned
That was hardly the point of my post though. It was more like what has England done to deserve a place at the top. That is precisely why the 3-1 remark was put in brackets too.
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
No worries. Not sure why I even bothered to post what I did about Lloyd and Walsh - I'm in a difficult mood todayApologies for the 3 AM blurry brained response
L Trumper
State Regular
They are descending in the sense that, quick bowlers are regressing with the exception of Zak, they don't have a good spinner [harbi is hit or miss], and sachin is 37.. so are other two in middle order..
While in england middle order with the exception of colly, all the remaining are pretty young and should play better. [Granted its all hypothetical].
Strauss yet to win first away series?? Dhoni won against NZ and BAN?? Do you really see that as an argument? Cook won in Ban.. Core of this ENG side first came together in NZ 2008 which they duly won..