*Official* Pakistan in England 2010

[GIMH]

Okay.

Ah good stuff @ Boycott ripping into Ponting again. Lovely.

Ha, what is he saying?

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Great day for England again.Well done to Prior for the ton but it is a shame that Pakistan are giving us no competition.

 

[NasserFan207]

Oh dear.

 

[Sir Alex]

Don't see what that has to do with my point.

I didn't know you were talking from rankings pov. And you had included that in your table didn't you?

If you are talking about only last 3 years, then a team like India would've got only Australia and Sri Lanka to play overseas. Sri Lanka eg has not played SA since 2002 in SA.

England on the other hand, managed to concede away series to even West Indies. But for some luck, they'd have lost SA series also 3-1.

Summing up, it is a joke to say England deserves to be anywhere near top 3 atm, unless they manage to topple Aussies late this year.

 

[pasag]

How so? England reducing Pakistan to 15-3 is a far more dominant position than starting tomorrow with Pakistan on 0-0. Makes the chances of Pakistan saving the game even slimmer than they would have been if Prior and Finn had plodded along for the rest of the evening session.

Sorry this is crazy talk. Pak would have probably been 3/15 tomorrow morning regardless. Calling for a declaration 420 ahead on day 3 is ridiculous.

 

[vcs]

Pakistan should have done much better in this match considering they've already played a couple of Tests and should be used to the conditions by now. Disappointing performance really all around.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Still cant handle the fact that Ponting is sooooooooooooooooo much better a batsman than him or is he actually making a logical point for a change

Just said that if Ponting had bowled at Headingley last week like he should Australia would have won easily.Not really having a massive go just saying what everyone else has.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Boycott was just saying things along the line of if Ponting had chosen to bowl at Headingley "like any idiot would have done" they'd have won inside two days.

 

[Uppercut]

Boycott was just saying things along the line of if Ponting had chosen to bowl at Headingley "like any idiot would have done" they'd have won inside two days.

Quite right too.

Well, not if they bowled the pus they did in Pakistan's first innings anyway. But his point about the absurd stupidity of that decision stands.

 

[kingkallis]

I just feel bad for pakistani bowlers.. they have to bowle and bat if there is a chance for pakistan to win or draw a match lol

Just imagine this batting line up for Pakistan :

Salman Butt
Imran Farhat / Fawad Alam [ Or do they have any better option? ]
Younis Khan
Umar Akmal
Mohammad Yousuf
Shoaib Malik
Kamran Akmal [ Or do they have any better option? ]
Mohammad Aamer
Umar Gul
Danish Kaneria / Saeed Ajmal
Mohammad Asif

 

[Dissector]

Looking at the scorecard, you almost have to wonder whether a reverse batting order like on those old sticky wickets wouldn't be better on this pitch especially for Pakistan. Send your tail in, hope they consume most of the new ball allowing your top order to score runs afterwards.

Anyway it was probably game over when England's lead reached 350. Given that England will have a newish ball and fresh bowlers again tomorrow I wouldn't be too surprised if they won by lunch.

At least this summer will be a valuable learning experience for Pakistan's batting order and they will be pleased with having developed a new generation of quality pace bowlers. Kamran Akmal perhaps saved his place with that Pietersen catch which is probably not a good thing for Pakistan.

I would love to see an India-Pakistan series in England on pitches like these. Reckon it would draw decent crowds and great TV ratings with an ideal 4-11 pm time slot in India.

 

[GIMH]

I didn't know you were talking from rankings pov. And you had included that in your table didn't you?

If you are talking about only last 3 years, then a team like India would've got only Australia and Sri Lanka to play overseas. Sri Lanka eg has not played SA since 2002 in SA.

England on the other hand, managed to concede away series to even West Indies. But for some luck, they'd have lost SA series also 3-1.

Summing up, it is a joke to say England deserves to be anywhere near top 3 atm, unless they manage to topple Aussies late this year.

Guess what, it's not luck to not lose all your wickets. Keep rolling out the same tired agenda but just because you say it all the time doesn't make it true.

 

[social]

Pakistan should have done much better in this match considering they've already played a couple of Tests and should be used to the conditions by now. Disappointing performance really all around.

Nah, they have 1 world class bowler, 2 world class young talents (Aamer and Umar) who will be prone to inconsistency, 1 very up and down seamer in Gul and the rest are Bangladesh all backed by the worst fielding side in the world

 

[Sir Alex]

And Boycott indeed has a point there.

 

[Furball]

I didn't know you were talking from rankings pov. And you had included that in your table didn't you?

If you are talking about only last 3 years, then a team like India would've got only Australia and Sri Lanka to play overseas. Sri Lanka eg has not played SA since 2002 in SA.

England on the other hand, managed to concede away series to even West Indies. But for some luck, they'd have lost SA series also 3-1.

Summing up, it is a joke to say England deserves to be anywhere near top 3 atm, unless they manage to topple Aussies late this year.

Generally speaking though, if you go back further than 3 years then it becomes close to irrelevant, because certain teams bear no resemblance to the current side.

 

[vcs]

How can you dismiss Pakistan's batting order as Bangladesh just because it is inexperienced... atleast give the likes of Ali/Amin/Akmal some time to prove themselves FFS.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

How can you dismiss Pakistan's batting order as Bangladesh just because it is inexperienced... atleast give the likes of Ali/Amin/Akmal some time to prove themselves FFS.

The Bangladesh batting is better than Pakistan anyway so the person comparing them is wrong anyway.Combine the Bangladesh batting with the Pakistan bowling and you'd have a good side.

 

[social]

How can you dismiss Pakistan's batting order as Bangladesh just because it is inexperienced... atleast give the likes of Ali/Amin/Akmal some time to prove themselves FFS.

So what your saying is that "today" (i.e. the game we're talking about), I'm not wrong

Thanks

 

[Furball]

How can you dismiss Pakistan's batting order as Bangladesh just because it is inexperienced... atleast give the likes of Ali/Amin/Akmal some time to prove themselves FFS.

As it stands, Bangladesh have a better batting line up than Pakistan.

 

[grecian]

As it stands, Bangladesh have a better batting line up than Pakistan.

Yep, pretty much on board with that.