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*Official* Australia vs Pakistan in England

morgieb

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howardj said:
We didn't make the hard calls on Hussey and North last summer.

Ponting should be under the microscope too, batting-wise.
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Hmmm....North does need to be ****ed off, I agree, but Hussey still often produces runs when we need them the most (Sydney anyone?) and can you imagine the annoyance of people if Ponting got dropped?
 
Shri

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Wouldn't permanently drop Ponting but maybe its time the selectors had a word with him or 'rest' him for a game as a sign.
 
Scaly piscine

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Just find it laughable that it takes the penultimate over before lunch for Watson to get a bowl.

Yes he's a pie chucker 80-90% of the time. But here he's a lot more effective here than scattergun hit the deck bowling. What's more even the figures bear it out. Sure if you want to knock over the tail that might change, but the captaincy has been horrible. Australia could have had Pakistan 200 all out here quite easily.
 
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Spark said:
I'm sure he'd love that
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Was just joking. Such measures could work with youngsters but if age is the problem here it won't do much good. Should persist with him and savour the moments when he gets going tbh. The day he announces his retirement can't be far off.
 
Manee

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Pakistan looking like getting around 350, and it poses the same questions of the bowling that were posed at Lords. Bollinger and Johnson look supremely underpar, and although Hilf has been below par too - it can be allowed to have a bad day among consistency over the past year. Bollinger is bowling no balls and doesn't have the foggiest idea where the ball is landing and, on slow pitches, Johnson doesn't seem potent or likely to take wickets. People often say Australia has its share of slow pitches, but I'd say they are still off the scale more pacey than English wickets, as you see people like Bollinger and Johnson not carrying the ball through above shin high at times, to Paine and you can see how the hit the deck style just becomes useless on English pitches. My experience, and this is very cautiously compared to Test cricket, is that pitches this summer in UK have been especially slow due to the total lack of rain that we have seen throughout the summer, which can kill a surface. Seems like it'll start raining again soon, so hopefully that'll put some juice into pitches.

Moreover, I'm aware of Smith's FC batting record, but perhaps they could get a 'proper' batsman in place of him, if he isn't going to be bowled. Watson and North seem to be capable of filling the fourth/fifth bowler role. Watson doesn't even seem to need to bowl long spells to be effective either. It is not as if he is overexerting himself at 77mph either.

Also, little pet peeve of mine that Asif has got next to no credit for his performance, whereas people will not shut up about Amir's performance, which was arguably less useful than Asif's.
 
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Scaly piscine said:
Just find it laughable that it takes the penultimate over before lunch for Watson to get a bowl.

Yes he's a pie chucker 80-90% of the time. But here he's a lot more effective here than scattergun hit the deck bowling. What's more even the figures bear it out. Sure if you want to knock over the tail that might change, but the captaincy has been horrible. Australia could have had Pakistan 200 all out here quite easily.
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Said "pie-chucker" averages under 30 in test cricket as a bowler and has been our "best" (it's all relative, I know) bowler in this series so you'd think he'd be an option

Ponting's captaincy has been almost as bad as the players' performances i.e. ****ing horrible

The really sad thing is that the Pakistani batsmen are doing their level best to even things up - we're just not good enough to do anything about it
 
Manee

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Well bowled Watson, really getting the ball to go late and he is getting enough balls in either the right line, right length, or both. Anything over 70mph has shown itself as enough in these conditions, it is just about getting the ball in the right areas and getting a good release so the ball swings.
 
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Manee said:
Pakistan looking like getting around 350, and it poses the same questions of the bowling that were posed at Lords. Bollinger and Johnson look supremely underpar, and although Hilf has been below par too - it can be allowed to have a bad day among consistency over the past year. Bollinger is bowling no balls and doesn't have the foggiest idea where the ball is landing and, on slow pitches, Johnson doesn't seem potent or likely to take wickets. People often say Australia has its share of slow pitches, but I'd say they are still off the scale more pacey than English wickets, as you see people like Bollinger and Johnson not carrying the ball through above shin high at times, to Paine and you can see how the hit the deck style just becomes useless on English pitches. My experience, and this is very cautiously compared to Test cricket, is that pitches this summer in UK have been especially slow due to the total lack of rain that we have seen throughout the summer, which can kill a surface. Seems like it'll start raining again soon, so hopefully that'll put some juice into pitches.

Moreover, I'm aware of Smith's FC batting record, but perhaps they could get a 'proper' batsman in place of him, if he isn't going to be bowled. Watson and North seem to be capable of filling the fourth/fifth bowler role. Watson doesn't even seem to need to bowl long spells to be effective either. It is not as if he is overexerting himself at 77mph either.

Also, little pet peeve of mine that Asif has got next to no credit for his performance, whereas people will not shut up about Amir's performance, which was arguably less useful than Asif's.
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Sorry indictment of Australia's attack is that they've only got a handful of balls in the area that the Pakistanis hit with monotonous regularity
 
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