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*Official* Bangladesh in England

Uppercut

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Let's say so.

Tamim's already gone. Edged Boyd Rankin to second slip for 5. Bangladesh 18/2 after 3 overs.
 

IrishOpener

U19 Debutant
154/1 after 27 overs, this really should be ours now, still :D

also I'd love to see Porty getting a century, just to make it a great day for Irish Cricket,

He'll probably be bowled for 99 now :(...
 

Scaly piscine

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Ireland crush Bangladesh then. If Ireland can do likewise tomorrow it'll give them a fair bit of bargaining power and increased profile.
 

laksh_01

State Vice-Captain
The Captain is out, but still only 22 to win :D,

@ Laksh, how would you rate this victory?, presuming we do go on and win :D...
As am always supporter of Cricket beyond its traditional boundaries. I say few people should fight their egos n start welcoming countries like Ireland. If Teams like Italy have to problem playing New Zealand in Fifa & New Zealand having no problem facing Portugal in Rugby? Then y should it be in cricket? Start welcoming countries like Ireland, Netherlands & Afghanistan & see the future how bright its gonna be. Limiting it n u will see more n more of India playing the same Sri Lanka again n again eventually killing the interest n sport. Act now than act later.
 
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IrishOpener

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It also moves Ireland to 10th in the World ODI Rankings,

and a win tomorrow would move us a lot closer to overtaking Bangladesh in 9th spot :D...
 

Neil Pickup

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I'm sure this is one of the circumstances in which we can manage to okay a username change, if you'd like to come up with something else - based on Will Porterfield, perhaps?!
 

stumpski

International Captain
As am always supporter of Cricket beyond its traditional boundaries. I say few people should fight their egos n start welcoming countries like Ireland. If Teams like Italy have to problem playing New Zealand in Fifa & New Zealand having no problem facing Portugal in Rugby? Then y should it be in cricket? Start welcoming countries like Ireland, Netherlands & Afghanistan & see the future how bright its gonna be. Limiting it n u will see more n more of India playing the same Sri Lanka again n again eventually killing the interest n sport. Act now than act later.
Couldn't agree more. There are plenty on here who don't agree with Bangladesh and even Zimbabwe playing international cricket. I grew up in a world with six Test teams, but it didn't take me too long to realise that there was a world outside the window. Obviously a minimum standard has to be attained, but why anyone would enjoy watching the same eight teams playing each other year after year is beyond me.

Oh and congrats to Ireland obviously. Doesn't follow that they should be playing Tests though, they would struggle to achieve the same result in Bangladesh.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Couldn't agree more. There are plenty on here who don't agree with Bangladesh and even Zimbabwe playing international cricket. I grew up in a world with six Test teams, but it didn't take me too long to realise that there was a world outside the window. Obviously a minimum standard has to be attained, but why anyone would enjoy watching the same eight teams playing each other year after year is beyond me.

Oh and congrats to Ireland obviously. Doesn't follow that they should be playing Tests though, they would struggle to achieve the same result in Bangladesh.
Congrats to Ireland. A very comprehensive win.

Regarding the above point. I dont think many really enjoy watching England play Bangladesh in Tests (as crowds would suggest) and I also dont think it adds much. More teams =/= more entertaining and better cricket.

TBH, I--and Im sure Sky--would be very happy if England only played Tests against 3-4 other nations from an entertainment POV.

Id be in favour of Ireland getting permenant ODI and T20 status tomorrow, a full cut of funding and the prospect of Test cricket being examined. However, they could never get it under the current FTP. At the moment it just wouldnt work and they would struggle as a FC entity let alone run their own multi-team domestic FC competition.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
I feel increasingly like Cassandra on this, but I still think it's not so much Bangladesh having test status that's the villain of the piece, but the FTP. As Goughy says, England v Bangladesh was pretty mediocre fayre in terms of quality and entertainment and didn't really capture the viewing public's imagination. We've already seen better cricket and more entertainment in the first three days of the Pak/Oz test and I say that as a unashamedly patriotic pom.

By all means let Bangladesh play tests, just don't force everyone to host them. & let them play tests against the likes of Ireland, Holland & Namibia too. The only argument against it is the sanctity of the stats and the sport is way too precious about them anyway.

Quick pop quiz: who's the leading rugby union try scorer in tests?

It's not David Campese or Rory Underwood, but this chap. No one seriously thinks him a better wing than either of the aforementioned, because he's played lower quality oppo. Surely the same would be true if (say) Porterfield averaged 110 in tests against Scotland, Wales (why not?) & Zimbabwe? Wouldn't mean he was a better player than Bradman.
 

Shifter

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
As am always supporter of Cricket beyond its traditional boundaries. I say few people should fight their egos n start welcoming countries like Ireland. If Teams like Italy have to problem playing New Zealand in Fifa & New Zealand having no problem facing Portugal in Rugby? Then y should it be in cricket? Start welcoming countries like Ireland, Netherlands & Afghanistan & see the future how bright its gonna be. Limiting it n u will see more n more of India playing the same Sri Lanka again n again eventually killing the interest n sport. Act now than act later.
Your comparing world cup matches in soccer and rugby to bilateral series in cricket, which is not a fair comparison. Cricket teams do play the minnows in world cups just as in rugby and soccer.

The major rugby teams play the minnows outside of world cups about as regularly as found in cricket.

Ireland and the like don't belong in Test cricket. While they do need nurturing and protection against player poaching, throwing them in the deep end isn't the best way.
 

Neil Pickup

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Surely the same would be true if (say) Porterfield averaged 110 in tests against Scotland, Wales (why not?) & Zimbabwe? Wouldn't mean he was a better player than Bradman.
But Wales has always been part of England for cricketing purposes... :ph34r:

Nah, seriously, what's the difference between this and the Inter-Continental Cup? First Class games are Tests in all but name, and the rich tapestry of records at Test level is something worth preserving.

This is just like gay marriage... Same rights, but a different name. Everyone's happy.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Nah, seriously, what's the difference between this and the Inter-Continental Cup? First Class games are Tests in all but name, and the rich tapestry of records at Test level is something worth preserving.
Many moons ago I started a project on something like this regarding all games played at FC involving national boards (or an approximation) that were not Tests in order to legitimise them as a status between ordinary FC and Tests and give Intercontinental Cup (and others) a history and tapestry (even if not so rich as Tests.)

IIRC, it included games such as Intercontinetal Cup, Eng vs ROW, Eng vs Ceylon, Rhodesia vs England, Packer games, Rebel tours, WI vs Ireland and so on and so forth.

There is a whole host of international games across the history of cricket that are mixed in with FC that could be elevated in status to something between normal FC and Test and the IntC Cup would continue that rich tradition.
 

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