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[GIMH]

I should add an 'allegedly' to that.

But, well, yeah, IMO.

 

[duffer]

The story I read that most of it was Foley's idea and Vince obviously loved it so gave it the green light. From a booking point of view it made sense as it was possibly the only way Rock could've set up Foley for the end but I counted at least 10-12 arm down chair shots to the head. Shouldn't have been sanctioned really, complete brutality.

 

[GIMH]

Really got The Rock over as a heel though. Loads were still cheering him anyway until that match.

Not that that comes before Foley's health, but he'd put himself through worse tbf

 

[sledger]

Rock and Foley supposedly very good friends these days iirc. But yes, that feud was pretty epic and brutal.

 

[sledger]

 

[Agent TBY]

You clearly hear Foley say "Hit me on the back" after the first three chairshots, but Rock wailed on him with around 8-9 more.

Crazy stuff.

 

[Jono]

I never read Foley's 2nd book, what'd he say about the I Quit match in it?

 

[masterblaster]

It surprises me when I watch today how many bad wrestlers were popular back in the Attitude Era. Bob Holly, Sean Waltman, Viscera, Nasty Boys and Brian Christopher were all terrible. Really does make you realise that the Attitude Era was partly due to the excellent work that Steve Austin, The Rock, Undertaker and Mick Foley did. Because the rest of the mid card apart from The Hardy Boys, Edge and Christian was pretty terrible. I think creatively though, the storylines, the marketing and the edgy presentation made it more popular then perhaps it should've been.

 

[sledger]

It surprises me when I watch today how many bad wrestlers were popular back in the Attitude Era. Bob Holly, Sean Waltman, Viscera, Nasty Boys and Brian Christopher were all terrible. Really does make you realise that the Attitude Era was partly due to the excellent work that Steve Austin, The Rock, Undertaker and Mick Foley did. Because the rest of the mid card apart from The Hardy Boys, Edge and Christian was pretty terrible. I think creatively though, the storylines, the marketing and the edgy presentation made it more popular then perhaps it should've been.

Disagree about Waltman and Brian Christopher. Both of them could work a good match imo. Will agree that a lot of the rest was poor, but there were other exceptions like D'Lo Brown, Goldust, Al Snow, Road Dogg, Billy Gunn and Val Venis who I thought were all pretty solid workers.

 

[GIMH]

It surprises me when I watch today how many bad wrestlers were popular back in the Attitude Era. Bob Holly, Sean Waltman, Viscera, Nasty Boys and Brian Christopher were all terrible. Really does make you realise that the Attitude Era was partly due to the excellent work that Steve Austin, The Rock, Undertaker and Mick Foley did. Because the rest of the mid card apart from The Hardy Boys, Edge and Christian was pretty terrible. I think creatively though, the storylines, the marketing and the edgy presentation made it more popular then perhaps it should've been.

Triple H worth a mention alongside the first four you've mentioned IMO. But yeah, midcard was piss poor in 98/99 - that's why I've started at 2000 in my going over these old PPVs. It was the arrival of Jericho & Angle in late 99, and Benoit & co in early 00 that set the midcard on its way to greatness.

It's why even though the product now isn't as good as the turn of the century, the PPVs are because the roster is stacked and every card is basically a supercard.

 

[Jono]

Viscera wasn't popular though. You've missed some names that were good. Owen Hart for one.

 

[Jono]

I never read Foley's 2nd book, what'd he say about the I Quit match in it?

Anyone?

 

[GIMH]

Not read it either mate, sorry

 

[sledger]

Triple H worth a mention alongside the first four you've mentioned IMO. But yeah, midcard was piss poor in 98/99 - that's why I've started at 2000 in my going over these old PPVs. It was the arrival of Jericho & Angle in late 99, and Benoit & co in early 00 that set the midcard on its way to greatness.

It's why even though the product now isn't as good as the turn of the century, the PPVs are because the roster is stacked and every card is basically a supercard.

Very good point actually, I was thinking something along these lines the other day whilst playing EWR. Pretty much everyone who makes it onto a PPV card these days is an established name and pretty popular.

 

[GIMH]

Billy Gunn.....pretty solid workers.

wat

 

[sledger]

wat

Monty Sopp is the most worthy winner of King of the Ring ever don't you know?

 

[GotSpin]

Anyone?

I've read it

 

[GotSpin]

Actually, sorry, my mistake, I've only read his first one. Had them mixed up

 

[Majin]

I never read Foley's 2nd book, what'd he say about the I Quit match in it?

It's been a while since I read it, buried in my room somewhere, but he basically talks about how the plan was to do 3-4 chairshots to the head for dramatic affect and space them out and stuff like that, and then The Rock just went off on one and beat the crap out of his head even though Foley was trying his best to get him to lay off or even just hit him in the back but nothing got through. He came out of it pretty okay, but he said something along the lines of how he was getting checked over and fixed up by the doctors after the match and loads of people from the other wrestlers to Vince all went to see him, but the Rock didn't go and see him at all, and that more than anything pissed Foley off the most. IIRC he said that there was tension between the two of them for a long while because of The Rock's sleight, although obviously they got past it.

 

[sledger]

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