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The atmosphere in Cricket Chat - Suggestions & Discussion
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Pretty sure in the past we've been told not to discuss moderating decisions on site but rather email any concerns to James tbh.
DingDong
andyc
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
They can be discussed, and that's the last I want to hear of it
Point is that they can at least be talked about in someway.
disagree, we should go the complete opposite way i reckon. give richard complete control of the forum. he will be the sole moderator and he will answer to nobody. give him a year james, he'll turn things around..
Add to the list, unsubstantiated one liners ridiculing a cricketing personality. To paraphrase Lincoln, no one will remember what we say here, but they'll never forget what those people did. Feels filthy, nonetheless, to read such poor speech and then try to focus on some other part of thread.
Come to think of it, I'm riled up enough to report a few posts asking for deletion of those specific ones by moderators. Not a drastic action requested and trying to play the ball not the bowler by focusing on posts.
Come to think of it, I'm riled up enough to report a few posts asking for deletion of those specific ones by moderators. Not a drastic action requested and trying to play the ball not the bowler by focusing on posts.
NasserFan207
International Vice-Captain
My 2 cents:
This is a sports forum. Arguments, name-calling and people getting riled up arent at all surprising. I haven't been a member here too long, but I don't remember a single sports forum (where fans of opposing teams post) where everyone gets along. I understand cricket is slightly different, but well... people are gonna argue. I don't think there's anything to be done short of banning half the posters.
As for the people who take it too seriously, just relax.
This is a sports forum. Arguments, name-calling and people getting riled up arent at all surprising. I haven't been a member here too long, but I don't remember a single sports forum (where fans of opposing teams post) where everyone gets along. I understand cricket is slightly different, but well... people are gonna argue. I don't think there's anything to be done short of banning half the posters.
As for the people who take it too seriously, just relax.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
I hate Cricket Chat
I hate the official tour threads
I hate the player v player polls
I hate the Warne/Murali debates
I hate the Lara/Tendulkar debates
I hate the draft threads
I hate Imran Khan’s inflated batting average
I hate non Test standard Test playing countries
I hate that no thread can go more than six pages without insults
I hate Don Bradman for being twice as good as any other batsman
I hate Garfield Sobers for not being Marshall and Hadlee rolled into one for his 20 year career
I hate post counts
I hate the lack of appreciation for wicketkeepers
I hate that SJS is the only one who knows anything about cricket
I hate groundsman who prepare flat pitches
I hate parents who don’t produce fast bowlers
I hate Charles Bannerman for scoring the first Test Century without knowing it
I hate bad commentators
I hate nationalistic bias
I hate trolls
I hate Dennis Lillee’s poor series in Pakistan
I hate bowlers who are allowed to chuck
I hate circular arguments
I hate multi-quote arguments
I hate Darrel Hair for being called Hair when he’s bald
I hate all new users who are Precam
I hate that no one named Lillywhite will ever play for England again
I hate the inventor of the calendar for allowing Stats Guru to exist
I hate WG Grace for being born before TV was invented
I hate players who are overrated
I hate players who are underrated
I hate that it’s only the Internet so it doesn’t matter
I hate moderators
I hate James for starting Cricket Web and forcing me to do things I don’t like
I hate Einstein for not factoring the swinging ball into his theory of relativity
I hate the Kookaburra that sits in the old gum tree for giving his name to a ball
I hate cricket
I hate Buddy Holly and the Crickets
I hate that wicket rhymes with cricket
I hate user names that sound like fruit
I hate people who have wasted time reading this
I hate the time I’ve wasted writing this
……….and most of all I hate you.
It’s a nice day for it though.
I hate the official tour threads
I hate the player v player polls
I hate the Warne/Murali debates
I hate the Lara/Tendulkar debates
I hate the draft threads
I hate Imran Khan’s inflated batting average
I hate non Test standard Test playing countries
I hate that no thread can go more than six pages without insults
I hate Don Bradman for being twice as good as any other batsman
I hate Garfield Sobers for not being Marshall and Hadlee rolled into one for his 20 year career
I hate post counts
I hate the lack of appreciation for wicketkeepers
I hate that SJS is the only one who knows anything about cricket
I hate groundsman who prepare flat pitches
I hate parents who don’t produce fast bowlers
I hate Charles Bannerman for scoring the first Test Century without knowing it
I hate bad commentators
I hate nationalistic bias
I hate trolls
I hate Dennis Lillee’s poor series in Pakistan
I hate bowlers who are allowed to chuck
I hate circular arguments
I hate multi-quote arguments
I hate Darrel Hair for being called Hair when he’s bald
I hate all new users who are Precam
I hate that no one named Lillywhite will ever play for England again
I hate the inventor of the calendar for allowing Stats Guru to exist
I hate WG Grace for being born before TV was invented
I hate players who are overrated
I hate players who are underrated
I hate that it’s only the Internet so it doesn’t matter
I hate moderators
I hate James for starting Cricket Web and forcing me to do things I don’t like
I hate Einstein for not factoring the swinging ball into his theory of relativity
I hate the Kookaburra that sits in the old gum tree for giving his name to a ball
I hate cricket
I hate Buddy Holly and the Crickets
I hate that wicket rhymes with cricket
I hate user names that sound like fruit
I hate people who have wasted time reading this
I hate the time I’ve wasted writing this
……….and most of all I hate you.
It’s a nice day for it though.
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
There are a couple you've forgotten ........................I hate Cricket Chat
I hate the official tour threads
I hate the player v player polls
I hate the Warne/Murali debates
I hate the Lara/Tendulkar debates
I hate the draft threads
I hate Imran Khan’s inflated batting average
I hate non Test standard Test playing countries
I hate that no thread can go more than six pages without insults
I hate Don Bradman for being twice as good as any other batsman
I hate Garfield Sobers for not being Marshall and Hadlee rolled into one for his 20 year career
I hate post counts
I hate the lack of appreciation for wicketkeepers
I hate that SJS is the only one who knows anything about cricket
I hate groundsman who prepare flat pitches
I hate parents who don’t produce fast bowlers
I hate Charles Bannerman for scoring the first Test Century without knowing it
I hate bad commentators
I hate nationalistic bias
I hate trolls
I hate Dennis Lillee’s poor series in Pakistan
I hate bowlers who are allowed to chuck
I hate circular arguments
I hate multi-quote arguments
I hate Darrel Hair for being called Hair when he’s bald
I hate all new users who are Precam
I hate that no one named Lillywhite will ever play for England again
I hate the inventor of the calendar for allowing Stats Guru to exist
I hate WG Grace for being born before TV was invented
I hate players who are overrated
I hate players who are underrated
I hate that it’s only the Internet so it doesn’t matter
I hate moderators
I hate James for starting Cricket Web and forcing me to do things I don’t like
I hate Einstein for not factoring the swinging ball into his theory of relativity
I hate the Kookaburra that sits in the old gum tree for giving his name to a ball
I hate cricket
I hate Buddy Holly and the Crickets
I hate that wicket rhymes with cricket
I hate user names that sound like fruit
I hate people who have wasted time reading this
I hate the time I’ve wasted writing this
……….and most of all I hate you.
It’s a nice day for it though.
Matt79
Hall of Fame Member
I've been posting a lot less recently. Partly because I've been busy, partly because the quality of the discussion here has been worse, and partly because I've found myself too often joining in the bad behaviour when someone's irritated me. I think it was Joe recently who told me that the cranky old man act was getting tired, and he was quite right. But that crankiness was inflamed by a reasonably long period of decline in the standard of conversation here.
In some ways, Dingdong's suggestion that we shut the forum for three months wouldn't be the worst idea. I think quite a few of the people who post here a lot have got to the stage where they're a bit rubbed raw and ready for a fight whenever they come on here - it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. A bit of time away for us to all come back refreshed and with better attitudes would probably be just the ticket.
That said - its probably not a path that James would be keen to go down, nor particularly fair to many users who do want to keep posting in the interim. But maybe a few people who are finding CC particularly irritating need to step back, consider whether they're part of the problem, and maybe give themselves a short holiday.
There are some very good points in this thread. The sometime-lack of friendliness towards new members is a key point, in my view. I've certainly been guilty of this myself on occasion. Often we are friendly to new posters, particularly if they write a good first post or mention, for example, that they're just learning about cricket. But often we're a bit snobbish, and quick to pounce on breaches of the unspoken (or even the written) rules of the forum. It's a fine line, because the fact that a decent standard of conversation is encouraged here is part of what makes the site, but perhaps we can gently prod and agree to reserve judgement, rather than beat down and rush to lynch, until a new guy has a chance to observe how things are done here?
I'm for the abolition of post-counts. I don't really mind them personally, and have posted in the milestones thread etc. That said, I can see the negatives people have raised, and can't really see many genuine positives.
I think the drift of threads off-topic should be a bit more tightly policed. For me, it's an issue when a thread drifts onto a topic that is already being discussed in another thread, so that the two threads become clones - as opposed to leading to a discussion that isn't already occuring elsewhere. I wouldn't mind mods being more firm in asking people to move back onto topic or else the thread gets closed, and on calling posters on posts that are clearly designed to drag a thread into a quagmire, and asking everyone to ignore it and move on.
I'm not too fussed if someone creates a new thread on a topic if any existing threads have been inactive for a month or whatever.
Finally, I'd agree with Loony Bob regarding his call for people to show a bit more respect for the mods. Again, I've probably been as guilty of this myself. It's great that we feel ownership of the forum, and as posters we can share a lot of the credit for what the forum is, but it's a place provided for us by the site owner, and in which we agree to abide by the rules by which he runs the place. If you've got a problem with a decision the mods make, or don't make, take it up with them or James via email or IM - they are pretty responsive, allowing for time differences etc. Blatently ignoring a request to cease an argument, or to stop baiting or whatever, from a mod is pretty bad manners. Making a rude or dismissive comment to a mod, on the forum, in response to such a request is possibly worse. Doing either should be a pretty short route to an imposed break from the forum.
In some ways, Dingdong's suggestion that we shut the forum for three months wouldn't be the worst idea. I think quite a few of the people who post here a lot have got to the stage where they're a bit rubbed raw and ready for a fight whenever they come on here - it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. A bit of time away for us to all come back refreshed and with better attitudes would probably be just the ticket.
That said - its probably not a path that James would be keen to go down, nor particularly fair to many users who do want to keep posting in the interim. But maybe a few people who are finding CC particularly irritating need to step back, consider whether they're part of the problem, and maybe give themselves a short holiday.
There are some very good points in this thread. The sometime-lack of friendliness towards new members is a key point, in my view. I've certainly been guilty of this myself on occasion. Often we are friendly to new posters, particularly if they write a good first post or mention, for example, that they're just learning about cricket. But often we're a bit snobbish, and quick to pounce on breaches of the unspoken (or even the written) rules of the forum. It's a fine line, because the fact that a decent standard of conversation is encouraged here is part of what makes the site, but perhaps we can gently prod and agree to reserve judgement, rather than beat down and rush to lynch, until a new guy has a chance to observe how things are done here?
I'm for the abolition of post-counts. I don't really mind them personally, and have posted in the milestones thread etc. That said, I can see the negatives people have raised, and can't really see many genuine positives.
I think the drift of threads off-topic should be a bit more tightly policed. For me, it's an issue when a thread drifts onto a topic that is already being discussed in another thread, so that the two threads become clones - as opposed to leading to a discussion that isn't already occuring elsewhere. I wouldn't mind mods being more firm in asking people to move back onto topic or else the thread gets closed, and on calling posters on posts that are clearly designed to drag a thread into a quagmire, and asking everyone to ignore it and move on.
I'm not too fussed if someone creates a new thread on a topic if any existing threads have been inactive for a month or whatever.
Finally, I'd agree with Loony Bob regarding his call for people to show a bit more respect for the mods. Again, I've probably been as guilty of this myself. It's great that we feel ownership of the forum, and as posters we can share a lot of the credit for what the forum is, but it's a place provided for us by the site owner, and in which we agree to abide by the rules by which he runs the place. If you've got a problem with a decision the mods make, or don't make, take it up with them or James via email or IM - they are pretty responsive, allowing for time differences etc. Blatently ignoring a request to cease an argument, or to stop baiting or whatever, from a mod is pretty bad manners. Making a rude or dismissive comment to a mod, on the forum, in response to such a request is possibly worse. Doing either should be a pretty short route to an imposed break from the forum.
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GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
I've argued with mods in the past, not excessively, only one real instance of me doing so in a major way and I think it's fair to say that's all water under the bridge now. So I have to say I agree with those saying that people are disrespecting the mods a fair bit. In a thread on CC I have just read an isntance of someone basically saying to a mod, I don't think I've done anything wrong so I'm gonna carry on as I was, I'm guessing it's this that people are talking about?
I think constructive feedback to the mods is great and they don't always get it right but that is just disrespect and undermining them to the highest level. It's disappointing and makes for ugly thread-viewing. If you disagree that much, would it be a lot to ask to curb whatever you were doing in that thread anyway, and send the mod a PM or email?
Sorry if this is a bit vague, have seen a few instances but one has really got my back up as the mod in question was more than polite and reasonable, I don't want to breach the 'no pointing the finger' nature that has served this thread so well though.
I think constructive feedback to the mods is great and they don't always get it right but that is just disrespect and undermining them to the highest level. It's disappointing and makes for ugly thread-viewing. If you disagree that much, would it be a lot to ask to curb whatever you were doing in that thread anyway, and send the mod a PM or email?
Sorry if this is a bit vague, have seen a few instances but one has really got my back up as the mod in question was more than polite and reasonable, I don't want to breach the 'no pointing the finger' nature that has served this thread so well though.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
In this thread and the post count one, there's been a lot of talk about the treatment of newbies. Just a suggestion that I'm sure will be shot down for good reasons - but why not move the 'Introduce Yourself' thread from OT to here. My thinking is that a lot of people don't check out off-topic parts of a forum for a while, if they ever do at all (four_or_six said earlier in the thread that she never goes there, for example). If we have the thread in CC they can introduce themselves to everybody. It would probably also lead to other parts of the forum getting promoted by members, like if sledger or me saw someone say they were into wrestling in their intro post, we'd point them in the direction of the wrestling thread. If someone said they were into movies, Pratters could point them to the movie thread. Show people that we are welcoming and that there's plenty of reasons to come to the site even when there's no cricket talk of interest.
I'm sure there are some points against, but I sense that being more welcoming is the main thing we've all agreed on - why not have that welcome in the 'flagship' board?
I'm sure there are some points against, but I sense that being more welcoming is the main thing we've all agreed on - why not have that welcome in the 'flagship' board?
