Pratters
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Richards v Tendulkar - ODIs
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GuyFromLancs
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Mmmmm, it's a tough question. The contrived nature of ODIs means you have different types of batsman who play very different roles.
As mentioned you have Bevan, Dhoni and Hussey who are/were experts at picking their moments to counter-attack, guiding the tail, and hanging on for the not out. The averages of these players are always very high but propped up by not outs and subsequently they score few centuries. .
Then you have those at the top of the order, Tendulka, Ganguly etc, less not outs thus lower averages, but with far more opportunity to score big if they get in, but having to fend off the new ball first.
Tendulkar as the best ever ODI batsman for the simple fact that he balanced power, attacking verve and accumilation better than anyone else and for far longer than anyone else. That's why his average of 45 is not far behind the finishers but with 46 centuries (light years ahead) and a very good strike rate around 86 on top of that.
Maybe Viv could have been as good if he had played more, but he didn't so he isn't.
Mere speculation about what Viv might have done does not = 46 centuries and averaging 45 after 20 years in my book.
Tendulka number 1.
As mentioned you have Bevan, Dhoni and Hussey who are/were experts at picking their moments to counter-attack, guiding the tail, and hanging on for the not out. The averages of these players are always very high but propped up by not outs and subsequently they score few centuries. .
Then you have those at the top of the order, Tendulka, Ganguly etc, less not outs thus lower averages, but with far more opportunity to score big if they get in, but having to fend off the new ball first.
Tendulkar as the best ever ODI batsman for the simple fact that he balanced power, attacking verve and accumilation better than anyone else and for far longer than anyone else. That's why his average of 45 is not far behind the finishers but with 46 centuries (light years ahead) and a very good strike rate around 86 on top of that.
Maybe Viv could have been as good if he had played more, but he didn't so he isn't.
Mere speculation about what Viv might have done does not = 46 centuries and averaging 45 after 20 years in my book.
Tendulka number 1.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
You think I was offended? You need some sort of sense of humour injection or something
Are you a mod now? Report the post if you think it's against the rules hey. If I wanted to provide a personal attack, I would, alas I don't so didn't
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
You meant it seriously. Don't act once you are caught because it is stupid.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
I was being sarcastic for sure, but if you think it counts as a personal atack, well you're just wrong, wrong, wrong. How about, like I said, report the post if you think there's a problem with it. I am sick and tired of your wannabe mod act, you telling people to stop breaking forum rules is tiresome. You're not a mod, you have no authority, get that into your head.
And I'm leaving it there because this will be tiresome for people to read, hell I found it tiresome to write
And I'm leaving it there because this will be tiresome for people to read, hell I found it tiresome to write
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
Pratters if I may say so you've not done yourself any credit in your last few posts.
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Lolled, if ever there was a whingy **** who could dish it out but not take it, it's you.
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sledger
Spanish_Vicente
I don't see how it's a breach of rules whatsoever actually. Surely the purpose of a forum is to challenge people on their intellect.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
As an opener alone, Tendulkar's maintained a 49 average and 88 strike rate over 323 games.
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Cruxdude
International Debutant
That is a ridiculously awesome statistic. Just strengthens my views.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
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Should illustrate Tendulkar's statistical dominance over all other openers, pay attention to the combination of average and SR.
Suprised that a) Lara was such a good opener and b) didn't open all that much.