*Official* Under-19 World Cup 2009/10

[DIRK-NANNES]

NZ seems pretty weak. I guess Australia was lucky to get them in the quarters.

BS. They completely dominated their group and cruised against Sri Lanka.
Restricting Oz to 232 was very good when a score of 270 was on the cards.

The fact that no. 6-11 haven't had a bat all tournament certainly hasn't helped them this game, along with the fact the rain was threatening for the first 20 overs meant they had to be aggressive to keep ahead of D/L.

Credit to Oz's opening bowlers too, if they hadn't bogged down our openers, the team would have approached the chase in a completely different manner.
Hazlewood and McDermott are what separates the teams.

 

[Briony]

BS. They completely dominated their group and cruised against Sri Lanka.
Restricting Oz to 232 was very good when a score of 270 was on the cards.

The fact that no. 6-11 haven't had a bat all tournament certainly hasn't helped them this game, along with the fact the rain was threatening for the first 20 overs meant they had to be aggressive to keep ahead of D/L.

Credit to Oz's opening bowlers too, if they hadn't bogged down our openers, the team would have approached the chased in a completely different manner.
Hazlewood and McDermott are what separates the teams.

It's this stage of the tournament which matters. Winning group games mostly against minnows counts for very little. Now is the time to produce and NZ has been found wanting at this point with the bat.

Looks like SA is struggling against SL as well. Their bowling looked very poor though. I guess Australia's bowling was always going to be strong because at least three of them have played in our very strong first class competition.

 

[DIRK-NANNES]

It's this stage of the tournament which matters. Winning group games mostly against minnows counts for very little. Now is the time to produce and NZ has been found wanting at this point with the bat.

Looks like SA is struggling against SL as well. Their bowling looked very poor though. I guess Australia's bowling was always going to be strong because at least three of them have played in our very strong first class competition.

The point is NZ aren't weak.

 

[Howsie]

Doug Bracewell 84* of 70 balls, New Zealand win by two wickets

 

[bryce]

I've heard Wheeler is a pretty good bat not sure about the rest though lol

 

[Briony]

SA in deep trouble 6/92. They will be disappointed after having a very good tournament in 2008 and I read where their coach expected them to make the semis. They look ordinary with bat and ball and even running between the wickets (poor coaching?). Still Sri Lanka looks far too talented for them. Australia and SL have looked good in the quarters after Pakistan and the Windies playing closer, albeit rain-reduced matches.

When it's all said and done what matters is how many progress through to the international arena.

 

[TT Boy]

SA in deep trouble 6/92. They will be disappointed after having a very good tournament in 2008 and I read where their coach expected them to make the semis. They look ordinary with bat and ball and even running between the wickets (poor coaching?). Still Sri Lanka looks far too good for them. Australia and SL have looked good in the quarters after Pakistan and the Windies playing closer, albeit rain-reduced matches.

When it's all said and done what matters is how many progress through to the international arena.

Ray Jennings has implied throughout about the lesser standard in comparison to the 2008 squad. He even wrote of the sides chances before they faced Australia, saying if they compete and show some fight that would be 'enough'.

Not many of these guys will go on professionally.

 

[Briony]

Sri Lanka will have to pick up its fielding if it wants to progress much further. It's dropped a lot of catches and it's bowling has been described by the commentators as only steady and disciplined. So at least the kiwis bemoaning their poor batting can console themselves with the fact that the saffers are worse at batting.

SL narrowly miss another run out and SL keep fumbling in the field. This is poor standard cricket.

 

[Briony]

Ray Jennings has implied throughout about the lesser standard in comparison to the 2008 squad. He even wrote of the sides chances before they faced Australia, saying if they compete and show some fight that would be 'enough'.

Not many of these guys will go on professionally.

So unless SA start producing some quality youngsters their medium-term future looks bleak? Certainly none of these bowlers look going on (as Hazelwood and McDermott) do and their batting has looked ordinary. At least their last under 19 team produced Parnell who could have a bright future.

These Lankans will have to improve their fielding if they're to succeed at the top level regardless of their other disciplines.

 

[Briony]

Kiwis out of the tournament.

 

[Howsie]

Bah, none of the batsmen showed up when it mattered. Well from the one game I was able to see at least we have some "fast' bowlers coming through the ranks, now we just have to prey they don't go the normal way of a Kiwi quick.

 

[TT Boy]

So unless SA start producing some quality youngsters their medium-term future looks bleak? Certainly none of these bowlers look going on (as Hazelwood and McDermott) do and their batting has looked ordinary. At least their last under 19 team produced Parnell who could have a bright future.

These Lankans will have to improve their fielding if they're to succeed at the top level regardless of their other disciplines.

Last squad also produced Vandiar and Rossouw, both of whom should play for South Africa in the near future. Rossouw already has an IPL deal with Bangalore. Moreover, Smuts and Malan from the 2008 squad have had successful starts to their professional careers. Whereas, even the batting of the current side looks ok. Hendricks has a good rep and destroyed aforementioned Aussie bowlers in the last game and from what I've seen of Ackerman, he looks rather classy. Can write the bowlers off though and that is the concern. No quality young quicks around.

 

[SeamUp]

So unless SA start producing some quality youngsters their medium-term future looks bleak? Certainly none of these bowlers look going on (as Hazelwood and McDermott) do and their batting has looked ordinary. At least their last under 19 team produced Parnell who could have a bright future.

These Lankans will have to improve their fielding if they're to succeed at the top level regardless of their other disciplines.

Have you got a problem with South Africans or are you just jealous of South African cricket? Because since I have been on this forum you seem very quick to be negative about SA cricket. Now that coming from and England cricket supporter is a bit rich.

In actual fact we have a pretty good future and as you might not notice, our current side is pretty young and we have plenty of talent coming through in Elgar, Theron and Rossouw and Vandiar from the last U19 WC.

Also from this team Richards, Ackermann and Deeb have big futures let alone a 16 year old tall fast bowler in Calvin Savage who should have been at this WC.

So I think you should start to find some more cracks in English cricket or are they to easy to find that you have to get South African imports to come and help you out.

 

[Briony]

Have you got a problem with South Africans or are you just jealous of South African cricket? Because since I have been on this forum you seem very quick to be negative about SA cricket. Now that coming from and England cricket supporter is a bit rich.

In actual fact we have a pretty good future and as you might not notice, our current side is pretty young and we have plenty of talent coming through in Elgar, Theron and Rossouw and Vandiar from the last U19 WC.

Also from this team Richards, Ackermann and Deeb have big futures let alone a 16 year old tall fast bowler in Calvin Savage who should have been at this WC.

So I think you should start to find some more cracks in English cricket or are they to easy to find that you have to get South African exports to come and help you out.

I saw a bit of Elgar and Vandiar when I was in SA and I'm not so sure about them, Elgar looked a bit limited with his strokeplay, a bit of a nurdler. Rossoux looked classy in the CL. Wouldn't be super confident about Deeb progressing; it's hard to make predictions regarding spinners.

The current SA pace attack looks good but they need to start producing more to replace these guys in the future. At least Australia now has a couple of potential quicks. Also add James Pattinson who's only 19.

Anyway you don't want your guys to show too much too early, the pommy scouts will be on the job.

 

[SeamUp]

I saw a bit of Elgar and Vandiar when I was in SA and I'm not so sure about them, Elgar looked a bit limited with his strokeplay, a bit of a nurdler. Rossoux looked classy in the CL. Wouldn't be super confident about Deeb progressing; it's hard to make predictions regarding spinners.

The current SA pace attack looks good but they need to start producing more to replace these guys in the future. At least Australia now has a couple of potential quicks. Also add James Pattinson who's only 19.

Anyway you don't want your guys to show too much too early, the pommy scouts will be on the job.

Many limited players have been successful in SA cricket so I guess thats a poor comment. Just look at the nurdlers like Cook and Collingwood for England.

Rossouw and Vandiar have pure talent and not bad for Vandiar to debut at 17 and do fairly well considering he hasn't turned 20 and has 2 centuries in both forms of the game.

I'm pretty confident Deeb will play for SA. Many of the people behind the scenes (Gordon Parsons and Shafiek Abrahams are pretty confident with his abilities and mental strength).

Its a real shame you support a team who wear the English badge with no passion or even fake passion (ie KP) and so on. I've supported SA cricket for many years and we've always been able to produce top quality cricketers ourselves & I'm sure you will continually see a strong SA cricket team on the field that doesn't give an inch.

 

[Briony]

Many limited players have been successful in SA cricket so I guess thats a poor comment. Just look at the nurdlers like Cook and Collingwood for England.

Rossouw and Vandiar have pure talent and not bad for Vandiar to debut at 17 and do fairly well considering he hasn't turned 20 and has 2 centuries in both forms of the game.

I'm pretty confident Deeb will play for SA. Many of the people behind the scenes (Gordon Parsons and Shafiek Abrahams are pretty confident with his abilities and mental strength).

Its a real shame you support a team who wear the English badge with no passion or even fake passion (ie KP) and so on. I've supported SA cricket for many years and we've always been able to produce top quality cricketers ourselves & I'm sure you will continually see a strong SA cricket team on the field that doesn't give an inch.

As the commentators said it was disappointing that the juniors didn't fight today in the customary SA manner. Maybe their coach hasn't instilled enough spirit in them.

 

[Briony]

Many limited players have been successful in SA cricket so I guess thats a poor comment. Just look at the nurdlers like Cook and Collingwood for England.

Rossouw and Vandiar have pure talent and not bad for Vandiar to debut at 17 and do fairly well considering he hasn't turned 20 and has 2 centuries in both forms of the game.

I'm pretty confident Deeb will play for SA. Many of the people behind the scenes (Gordon Parsons and Shafiek Abrahams are pretty confident with his abilities and mental strength).

Its a real shame you support a team who wear the English badge with no passion or even fake passion (ie KP) and so on. I've supported SA cricket for many years and we've always been able to produce top quality cricketers ourselves & I'm sure you will continually see a strong SA cricket team on the field that doesn't give an inch.

?

 

[SeamUp]

When conditions were tough at the Wanderers I didn't see much heart or passion by any of the England players except Collingwood. Haha the double agents walked out to the middle like they didn't care and played like they didn't care, especially old Trotty. Get used to old Trotty coming out to bat and not knoing what day it is. He regularly will do it for you lot. Thats why you saw Mickey laughing when he come out to bat in the 2nd innings.

Oh of course the KP I'm English with a put on English accent and the Lions tattoo but still wishes deep down he could wear the green and gold.

 

[SeamUp]

As the commentators said it was disappointing that the juniors didn't fight today in the customary SA manner. Maybe their coach hasn't instilled enough spirit in them.

Obviously you haven't come across Jet Jennings before then. He is a scrapper and a fighter and always has been one and would make sure that the players gave nothing but their best or they will get a real ear-full.

Simple as Sri Lanka were far better than us and our fast bowling was extremely poor and it put our batting under pressure.

 

[bryce]

Have you got a problem with South Africans...

I think this guy is just slightly deluded tbf, and this is proven by just one of his sentences...

Certainly none of these bowlers look going on (as Hazelwood and McDermott) do and their batting has looked ordinary

Do you realise that just four days ago S.A under-19's chased down 276 to beat Australia?
Hazlewood 0/58(8.4) & McDermott 1/49(8). Seems as if you missed that game.

And how is one single sub-standard year of under-19 cricket going to have a pronounced effect on the mid-term future of a country as rich in cricketing talents as South Africa?