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Best Test XI from each nation (that you have seen)

bagapath

International Captain
WI

greenidge
gayle
richardson
lara
richards
lloyd *
dujon +
marshall
holding
ambrose
garner

Ind

Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Viswanath
Dhoni * +
Shastri
Kapil
Kumble
Srinath
Harbhajan

Eng

Gooch *
Boycott
Gower
Pietersen
Thorpe
Botham
Knott +
Flintoff
Gough
Underwood
Willis

Pak


anwar
mudassar
zaheer
javed
inzamam
imran *
kamran +
akram
saqlain
waqar
akhthar

aus

hayden
langer
ponting
jones
border *
s.waugh
gilchrist +
warne
lillee
mcgrath
reid

SA

smith *
gibbs
kirsten
kallis
cullinan
ab de villiers
mcmillan
boucher +
pollock
ntini
donald

NZ

fleming *
wright
m.crowe
ryder
jones
vettori
cairns
hadlee
smith +
bond
chatfield
 
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morgieb

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For me:

Australia

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
M Hussey
S Waugh
Clarke
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee/Johnson
Gillespie
McGrath
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
England

Atherton
Strauss
Hussain
Vaughan
Thorpe
Pietersen
Stewart
Flintoff
Swann
Hoggard
S. Jones

Put approximately zero thought into this so there we go. Strauss over Tresco a controversial one hey.
 

stephen

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Aus:

Slater
Hayden
Ponting
M Waugh
S Waugh
Border
Gilchrist
Warne
Gillespie
McDermott
McGrath

WIndies (a lot of these I barely remember):

Greenidge
Haynes
Richards
Lara
Richardson
Chanderpaul
Dujon
Marshall
Bishop
Ambrose
Walsh
(There's no spinner worthy of this team)

South Africa:

Smith
Kirsten
Gibbs
Kallis
de Villiers
Prince
Boucher
Pollock
Steyn
de Villiers
Donald
(There is no spinner in this team, but IMO it's the strongest they could field over the last 20 odd years - throw Boje in over de Villiers on a turner).

I don't really have too much to say about most other touring teams that I've seen here. Most have been made to look very ordinary by our batting lineup and the McWarne combo.
 

Richard

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Can't remember if I've posted in this thread before, but I'm bored (there are downsides to finishing assignments 2 weeks before the deadline I guess) so I'll have a go now. This on the basis not of playing a single match or for a year or 4, but for a 7-year period of 10 or so Tests per year. So players whose careers have yet to last, continuously or near-continuously, anywhere near that long can't be counted.

England
Gooch
Atherton (may be Strauss by the end of his career - we wait to see on that score) (whichever of these plays will (C))
R Smith \ Hussain (honestly just cannot make-up my mind on this one - would depend on whether the game was in the subcontinent and\or whether a Warne\Murali was present or not; if neither, then Smith without a doubt)
Gower
Stewart (W)
Thorpe
Pietersen (the aforementioned two may bat either way around)
Flintoff
Caddick (would be replaced by Croft if the deck was a turner and non-seamer)
Gough
Fraser

NB: I did see Botham play as a game was in progress, but only in 1991 and 1992, by which time he eminently was not the Botham who would get into almost any England time any time. So I've not counted him. Equally I saw Ramprakash bat in domestic cricket several times and if this was a side for a domestic match he'd be in ahead of all the batsmen, including currently Pietersen. Ditto Hick.

Australia:
Taylor (C)
Slater
Boon
M Waugh
S Waugh
Ponting
Gilchrist (W)
Warne
Fleming
Gillespie
McGrath

NB: I don't recall ever seeing McDermott actually on a teamsheet, though I must have done at some point. If I did, he'd be in instead of Fleming.

South Africa:
G Smith (C)
G Kirsten
Kallis
Cullinan
McMillan
Rhodes
Boucher (W)
Klusener
Pollock
Donald
Ntini

NB: Cronje would be considered, and probably be in, if I could have a guarantee that he'd been purged from bookmakers before every game, but sadly as such a guarantee could not exist I can't consider him. Probably rather contentuously, that's an almost-all-white side, but I think it pretty much just says that there are still not many Coloured players to have had long careers yet. Steyn will almost certainly replace either Klusener or Ntini once his career progresses.

West Indies:
Campbell
Gayle
Hooper
Lara
Chanderpaul
Adams (C)
Jacobs (W)
Ambrose
Bishop (would have to draft in K Benjamin when he had his lengthy spells out of the side)
W Benjamin
Walsh

NB: Richardson would be considered, and in fact would play ahead of Hooper, except I only saw him in 1994 and 1995 when he was past his best and probably no better than Hooper, who I'd have from 1993 onwards.

New Zealand:
Richardson
Horne
M Crowe
Fleming (C)
Astle
Cairns \ Oram (hopefully one would always at one point be fit - if both are, Cairns plays)
McCullum (W)
Vettori
Three specialist seamers would be selected from whoever was presently fit from: Doull, Nash, O'Connor, Bond and Tuffey. If by some miracle all were the first-choice three would be Doull, Nash, Bond.

India:
Shastri
Sidhu
Dravid
Tendulkar
Vengsarkar
Sehwag
Mongia (W)
Kumble
Srinath
V Prasad (would be replaced by Harbhajan Singh on a typical home or Sri Lankan deck but would play anywhere else in the cricket World)
Z Khan

Pakistan:
Aamir Sohail
Saeed Anwar
Javed Miandad
Inzamam-ul-Haq (C)
Mohammad Yousuf
Younis Khan
Imran Khan
Rashid Latif (W)
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Shoaib Akhtar (when he's not fit I'd call in someone else, not sure who)

NB: I sincerely hope in due course Mohammad Asif will be added. I cheated a bit on Imran Khan as I never actually saw him play a Test but I did see him play ODIs.

Sri Lanka:
Atapattu
Jayasuriya
M. Jayawardene
de Silva
Sangakkara
Dilshan
Kaluwitharana (will probably be replaced by P. Jayawardene in time)
Vaas
Zoysa
?????? (there's no-one really who fits the criteria among Lankan bowlers - in due course I suspect Kulasekera will)
Muralitharan
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
England

Atherton
Strauss
Hussain
Vaughan
Thorpe
Pietersen
Stewart
Flintoff
Swann
Hoggard
S. Jones

Put approximately zero thought into this so there we go. Strauss over Tresco a controversial one hey.
Is it?

Would probably have both to be honest, although Athers was one my favourite players when I was a kid but Strauss is deserving a spot.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
India:

Gautam Gambhir
Virender Sehwag
Rahul Dravid
Sachin Tendulkar
VVS Laxman
Mahendra Singh Dhoni (C)
Kapil Dev
Anil Kumble
Harbhajan Singh
Javagal Srinath
Zaheer Khan
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
1.Strauss (c)
2.Trescothick
3.Smith
4.Pietersen
5.Thorpe
6.Stewart
7.Flintoff
8.Swann
9.Gough
10.Caddick
11.Fraser

Most of it fairly automatic for me, seen them all live in a test (apart from Robin Smith who I have seen 567832 for Hampshire) openers the most marginal for me, maybe should have Atherton over Trescothick
Smith over Vaughan is very marginal and Hampshire bias played a big role.
Wanted 5 bowlers and a spinner so went for Swann, maybe a bit early but he was the best option.
Fraser just edging out Hoggard and S. Jones
Strauss captain be default really.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
England (of top of my head)

1 Gooch (c)
2 Strauss
3 Smith
4 KP
5 Thorpe
6 Stewart (wkt)
7 Flintoff
8 Gough
9 Caddick
10 Fraser
11 Tufnell

Gower unlucky to miss out (well probably for some, not for me though). I only saw Botham towards the end of his career so he is not included either. I wanted Harmison but went with Fraser instead.

EDIT- Just seen the post above mine. Very simlar.
 
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Migara

International Coach
SL

Tests

TM Dilshan (RH, OB)
Marvan Atapattu (RH)
Kumar Sangakkara (LH)
Aravinda de Silva (RH, OB)
Mahela Jayawardane (c) (RH)
Thilan Samaraweera (RH, OB)
Romesh Kaluwitharana (RH, wk)
Ravi Ratnayake (LH, RFM)
Chaminda Vaas (LH, LFM)
Rumesh Ratnayake (RH, RFM)
Muttiah Muralitharan (RH, OB)

ODIs
Sanath Jayasuriya (LH, SLA)
TM Dilshan (RH, OB)
Kumar Sangakkara (LH, wk)
Aravinda de Silva (RH, OB)
Arjuna Ranatunga (LH, RMF)
Marvan Atapattu (RH)
Anjelo Mathews (RH, RFM)
Chaminda Vaas (LH, LFM)
Rumesh Ratnayake (RH, RFM)
Muttiah Muralidaran (RH, OB
Lasith Malinga (RH, RF)
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Is it?

Would probably have both to be honest, although Athers was one my favourite players when I was a kid but Strauss is deserving a spot.
Maybe it isn't, just expected plenty to disagree with the selection. Rate Tresco hugely but think that Strauss will retire with the English record for Test centuries (though KP might have something to say about that and Cook will probably topple him in the following years).
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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WEST INDIES:

Campbell
Gayle
Sarwan
Lara
Hooper
C'Paul
Jacobs
Taylor
Ambrose
Collins
Walsh

12th man: Bravo

Taylor & Collins in - Bishop & W Benji out..
So you've dropped two better bowlers because you've seen two lesser bowlers since then?

Each of Bishop and Benjamin sooo much better than Taylor and Collins combined.
 

TT Boy

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RSA

Smith
Gibbs
Kirsten
Kallis
Prince
AB
Bouch
Polly
Steyn
Ntini
AD

England

Strauss
Stewart
Thorpe
KP
Colly
Flintoff
White
Russell
Swann
Gough
Hoggard
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
So you've dropped two better bowlers because you've seen two lesser bowlers since then?

Each of Bishop and Benjamin sooo much better than Taylor and Collins combined.
I saw both Bishop & W Benji in the 98 ENG tour to WI & both where passed their best. Since i made this thread i think 2006 or 2007, i've seen the best of Taylor & Collins so i put them in.

Roach could probably make it over Collins in the next 5 years if he fullfills his enormous potential.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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I saw both Bishop & W Benji in the 98 ENG tour to WI & both where passed their best.
Interesting. Especially because Benjamin last played for West Indies in the mid-90s IIRC. You must mean Kenny Benjamin, in which case you have a point.
 

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
England (of top of my head)

1 Gooch (c)
2 Strauss
3 Smith
4 KP
5 Thorpe
6 Stewart (wkt)
7 Flintoff
8 Gough
9 Caddick
10 Fraser
11 Tufnell

Gower unlucky to miss out (well probably for some, not for me though). I only saw Botham towards the end of his career so he is not included either. I wanted Harmison but went with Fraser instead.

EDIT- Just seen the post above mine. Very simlar.
England XI

Gooch
Vaughan
Robin Smith
KP
Gower
Stewart
Botham
Flintoff
Gough
Fraser
Harmison

Love that batting line-up, such depth, and despite having no spinner there is every type of seam bowler possible (if a little lacking in top quality).
We're all the same, we would pick two different teams on different days. Quite interesting to compare those two teams though. Gower makes way for Thorpe; Caddick makes a comeback; the spinner gets a game; and Strauss overhauls Vaughan.

Personally I couldn't pick a team of this sort without both Gower and Thorpe (I think). I will give some thought to mine now.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
RSA

Smith
Gibbs
Kirsten
Why on Earth that way around? :wacko: Why on Earth not Smith-Kirsten-Gibbs, given Gibbs was only ever a manufactured opener anyway and Kirsten was a natural?

And quite why you rate Gibbs so highly anyway is beyond me as he was such a fairweather batsman.
 

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