Matteh
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
History seems to agree with that. Only 6 teams have made the final since 1966, with all the form teams from the tournaments reaching the 3rd/4th Playoff.
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World Cup 2010
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Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
Haha, indeed. Just checked it out.04 - it wasn't a completely lucky draw though - they had to beat the cup kings on the way
Looks like the best team to be knocked out of that half of the draw was Bolton (
obv ) ...
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So should we seed the FA Cup to stop that from ever happening again?
The World Cup's a different proposition as far as I'm concerned anyway. If you were to propose a worst-case scenario by picking the 16 teams you think are the weakest and playing them off against each other for a few weeks to see which one was the best, the winner would certainly still be capable of giving anyone a game.
I'll concede that you could end up with a particularly weak semi-final. But that happens a lot anyway. Brazil-Turkey and Germany-South Korea?
The World Cup's a different proposition as far as I'm concerned anyway. If you were to propose a worst-case scenario by picking the 16 teams you think are the weakest and playing them off against each other for a few weeks to see which one was the best, the winner would certainly still be capable of giving anyone a game.
I'll concede that you could end up with a particularly weak semi-final. But that happens a lot anyway. Brazil-Turkey and Germany-South Korea?
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Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
and since 1966 they've been seeding the group draws
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
Local tournament, I don't really care...but wouldn't moan if it happened. Watched that FA Cup final and Millwall were Bangladesh-esque.
Brazil vs Greece would be a fairly one-sided final.
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
if the refs had been doing their job, it'd have been Germany - Italy
(though admittedly that'd leave Australia - Germany in 06)
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
No we shouldn't seed the FA Cup, as that is the whole point of that competition. There are leagues to ensure we have matchups between the best sides, it is a straight knockout, and seeding it would be completely pointless.
The World Cup is a different proposition as it's the only time the best teams in the world all get together. The WC Final is supposed to be football's showpiece match. Brazil-Greece would be yucky.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
ignore list for youHaha, indeed. Just checked it out.
Looks like the best team to be knocked out of that half of the draw was Bolton (
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
The
was over the result, not Bolton. Apologies.Good point about the straight KO too.
Matteh
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
FA Cup is sort of semi-seeded, in that the very best teams don't join the competition until relatively late (after the billion pre-qualifying and qualifying rounds and 2 proper rounds) but yeah, the magic comes when Aston Villa play Man Utd in the 3rd round like they do every year.
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
The FAOi appears to be trying to row the boat back upstream...
Ireland angry with Sepp Blatter for making '33rd-team' suggestion public | Football | guardian.co.uk
Hell, anyone who tries to attack Blatter deserves a bit of support. And
Ireland angry with Sepp Blatter for making '33rd-team' suggestion public | Football | guardian.co.uk
Hell, anyone who tries to attack Blatter deserves a bit of support. And
should be obvious, but isn't at present (though it should be rewritten as "ensure that all relevant rules are codified before the start of the tournament")
Matteh
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We very very nearly went out in a qualifying round for as far as i can tell the first time ever this season. I miss the brief time we were in the same division as Tranmere.
Yeah, if the cup was seeded it would actually help teams like mine as it would give us a huge shot at a big tie each year. We'd be seeded in round one, get in theory the weaker teams up until the third, and then get a decent draw due to being lower seeds at that point.
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Portugal-Greece was a fairly one-sided Euro final in 2004 tbf.
The big problem with the WC is that all the good matches are in the group stage, while the knock-out stages are invariably boring as hell, with the exception of the minor nuclear war that was Portugal-Netherlands four years ago.
So bin seeding and let's have the good games early. And then Brazil can lift the trophy after beating Italy 1-0.
So bin seeding and let's have the good games early. And then Brazil can lift the trophy after beating Italy 1-0.
BoyBrumby
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Naaah. There's been some proper shyte finalists: Argentina in 90, Germany in 02 & Italy in 06. The latter actually won the thing.
Goes back further than that, even. The group stage for 54 was definitely seeded. Although there were 4 teams in each group, there were two seeds and two non-seeds and seeds only played the unseeds so each country only played twice.and since 1966 they've been seeding the group draws
Dunno about 58 or 62 tho.
Magrat Garlick
Rather Mad Witch
Ah yes, had forgotten. Legendary system. Was made even better by the lack of any separation on goal difference, so the seeds who had lost earlier (Turkey and Italy) got an extra chance to play off...and still failed
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