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World Cup 2010

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Scaly piscine

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Seeing as though he was shunted out on the left for a heap of these matches and if you'd watched most of the times he did play with Zizou they obviously weren't a good fit for the same side and it wasn't like Zidane was setting the table for him time after time. If anything Henry does a lot more donkey work playing for France than he ever did at Arsenal.

He didn't have the opportunities to dominate the ball like he did for Arsenal as he was clearly no 2 outlet for France. 51 goals and 29 assists is anything but mediocre though so I'm struggling to see where you have a point.

EDIT: Those stats going off wiki.
From 117 games it is mediocre. Genuine top players would be scoring better than a goal every two games or offer a lot more. Chief Cheateur has been an anonymous figure in every France game I've watched, or listened to on the radio such as against Ireland.
 

grecian

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Would just like to link to This thread, as this argument has been done to death on here, and it would be a shame if it ****ed up any more threads:)

Particularly amusing the start of that thread, because it was when Henry got the winner against United.
 
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Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
Henry is an all-time great. And his record is more than fine. The reason it isn't as good as it could be internationally is explained well by duffer. What a pitiful attempt to denigrate a legend.
 
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marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
On Henry and his supposed poor finishing, SSN were doing a piece on Defoe after the 5 goals on Sunday and talking about best ratio of goals to shots by top scorers over a season.

Guess who came out with the best for a full season?
 

grecian

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
On Henry and his supposed poor finishing, SSN were doing a piece on Defoe after the 5 goals on Sunday and talking about best ratio of goals to shots by top scorers over a season.

Guess who came out with the best for a full season?
Was it Marlon Harewood?
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
On Henry and his supposed poor finishing, SSN were doing a piece on Defoe after the 5 goals on Sunday and talking about best ratio of goals to shots by top scorers over a season.

Guess who came out with the best for a full season?
Couldn't give a ****. Most players take potshots from long range. The CDMs are notorious for trying to walk the ball into the net - which means when they finally do shoot they're usually very good chances.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Dong Fangzhou actually.

Of course we should've known that the real answer will be ignored because it doesn't suit SP.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Dong Fangzhou actually.

Of course we should've known that the real answer will be ignored because it doesn't suit SP.
Because it's meaningless statistic as it all depends on what sort of % shots the player takes. Oh wait you'll ignore that because you can't argue with it.
 

Jarquis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Because it's meaningless statistic as it all depends on what sort of % shots the player takes. Oh wait you'll ignore that because you can't argue with it.
It's not like it's a small sample, it's not like he didn't score frequently and only shot when it was an easy chance. I don't think his goals/shot % was on his mind when he was running through on goal, I don't think it featured in his decisions to take an extra touch or square it across the box.
The guy scored an incredible amount of goals at an incredible rate and as a bonus took less shots to score those goals ;)
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
51 goals from 117 appearances is mediocre for a forward playing for a winning team, which most of the time had a *genuine* top notch player such as Zidane providing chances.
Regardless, there are only two players who are still playing international football who have scored more goals than him, and having played in a similar amount of matches. Those two being Stern John and Carlos Pavon, neither of which are better than Henry, I'm sure you'll agree.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Think we should all take grecian's sage advice, tbbfh:

Would just like to link to This thread, as this argument has been done to death on here, and it would be a shame if it ****ed up any more threads:)

Particularly amusing the start of that thread, because it was when Henry got the winner against United.
 

The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
Ha ha had never read that thread before - some classic stuff.

Andy Cole > Henry clearly one of the very best though.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Because it's meaningless statistic as it all depends on what sort of % shots the player takes. Oh wait you'll ignore that because you can't argue with it.
A player with good finishing would obviously take fewer shots, being the most obvious answer to that.
 

Majin

International Debutant
Those two being Stern John and Carlos Pavon, neither of which are better than Henry, I'm sure you'll agree.
Stern John edges it by virtue of having the best name ever.



it even suits his face
 
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Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
A player with good finishing would obviously take fewer shots, being the most obvious answer to that.
Yes I'm well aware that at this basic level of evolution humans have reached the 'obvious answer' is generally bollocks.

Someone like Lampard for instance shoots on sight. Then you have your Michael Owen type players who would clearly have a much higher proportion of close range.
 
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