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The best batsman and bowler of the 1990s

honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Avada Kedavra said:
I haven't cherry picked anything. Using the either/or query against McGrath and Warne like YOU did for Donald and Pollock, Tendulkar comes out on top. Choose one or the other, you can't have both.

Tendulkar averages a full 10 points more against Imran Khan. What Lara WOULD have done if he had played more matches is merely speculation. Just like if I tell you that Lara would have failed miserably against Ambrose and Walsh.
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Sachin averages lesser against Nicky Boje than Lara... Go figure.. :p
 
Xuhaib

Xuhaib

International Coach
honestbharani said:
That is junk.. McGrath's bowling is hardly suited to India.. The only reason he was that good in 2004 was that they had fielders cutting off our main shots and McGrath's lines and lengths meant we were going to poke at one eventually... Indian tracks hardly EVER aid seam movement. There is a reason why most of our fast bowlers are and have always been "swing" bowlers than "seam" bowlers...
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Loved the Aussie planning in that series they were just brilliant probably the best moment for a side that won so much.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Xuhaib said:
Loved the Aussie planning in that series they were just brilliant probably the best moment for a side that won so much.
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Indeed.. You can check out the posts of mine from that tour thread where I must have said exactly what you have said in this post.. It was an amazing display of what planning and execution of that planning can do,...
 
G.I.Joe

G.I.Joe

International Coach
It helped that Ponting played in the series only after they had it wrapped up. Tendulkar had his injuries too.
 
Sir Alex

Sir Alex

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G.I.Joe said:
It helped that Ponting played in the series only after they had it wrapped up. Tendulkar had his injuries too.
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I think that series underlined how key tendulkar has been to the Indian sides' success against Australia. Adam Gilchrist was splendid as captain int hat series. He deserved to be captain.
 
G.I.Joe

G.I.Joe

International Coach
Oh yeah, Gilchrist promoting himself up the order showed a good understanding of what was required. Ponting, by not dropping himself from the team in a single test match in India, hasn't displayed that sort of understanding of the game.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Sir Alex said:
I think that series underlined how key tendulkar has been to the Indian sides' success against Australia. Adam Gilchrist was splendid as captain int hat series. He deserved to be captain.
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I think it underlined how under prepared were for that series.. Tendulkar or no Tendulkar, we lost it because we hadn't played proper test cricket for a while and it came at a time when collectively most of our main players were going through a bad patch... Our bowling could have done better but it never did and we were almost always playing catch up after losing the toss in most of the tests...


I agree Sachin is crucial. I mean, for any match, he is always obviously crucial for India because he is one of the greatest ever batsmen to have played the game but to attribute the loss to him is cruel to the rest of the team.
 
Sir Alex

Sir Alex

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honestbharani said:
I think it underlined how under prepared were for that series.. Tendulkar or no Tendulkar, we lost it because we hadn't played proper test cricket for a while and it came at a time when collectively most of our main players were going through a bad patch... Our bowling could have done better but it never did and we were almost always playing catch up after losing the toss in most of the tests...


I agree Sachin is crucial. I mean, for any match, he is always obviously crucial for India because he is one of the greatest ever batsmen to have played the game but to attribute the loss to him is cruel to the rest of the team.
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The series could have still been squared at least or that's how I like to believe, had the last day of Chennai test was not rained off with India needing I think about 230 runs with Sehwag gunning along.
 
stephen

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
bagapath said:
pratters... once i finish my work this week, i intend to start a "team of the decade" thread. hope there is enough interest in it.
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Hmmm team of the 90s.

Boon
Gooch
Tendulkar
Lara
De Silva
Waugh (c)
Healy (wk)
Warne
Akram
Ambrose
Donald

Unlucky to miss out:
Waqar Younis
Bishop
Walsh
McGrath
Pollock

Damn there were some good bowlers in the 90s.
 
Avada Kedavra

Avada Kedavra

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honestbharani said:
Don't go quoting off names mate.. Will like to see where Sobers and Imran rated Sachin ahead of Lara, for starters...


And MarkWaugh is not a great of the same standardsof the others mentioned there.. I don't really see why his opinion should count more than a McGrath or Murali who both rate Lara better.
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I don't just quote names if they aren't true. Here is Sobers :

Sachin ahead of Lara, says Sir Gary Sobers

And this is for Benaud :

YouTube - Tendulkar is the best batsman since Bradman - Richie Benaud

Never mentioned Imran. Check again.
 
Avada Kedavra

Avada Kedavra

Banned
MrIncredible said:
In the 90s its Waugh no questions asked. Slightly inferior record to Tendulkar but did very good/great against all the best attacks of their time.
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A difference of 5 points is *slight* Hmmmm

I don't see how Tendulkar could have done worse than Waugh against good/great attacks seeing Tendulkar also faced Australia's attack which was and has always been much much better than India's pie-throwers.
 
Avada Kedavra

Avada Kedavra

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And best fast bowlers

1. Ambrose
2. McGrath
3. Wasim Akram
4. Donald
5. Pollock

Spinners

1. Warne

2. Daylight
3. Daylight
4. Daylight

5. Murali
 
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