*Official* Australia in India - ODIs

[G.I.Joe]

194* by Coventry had a 37 by Matsikenyeri in the same innings. That seems to be the biggest difference among the huge innings' I can think of.

194 by Anwar had 39 apiece from Inzi and Ijaz for company. Although he did employ a runner for the last 100 runs or so.

Kirmani made 24 to go with Kapil's 175.

 

[Pratters]

It was 351 off 300 balls.

But the position it came down to, we choked from there on.

 

[Dissector]

Yeah I think we should get a pure batsman who can field. Yuvraj and Sehwag can easily take care of the fifth bowler's ten overs.

And we need to consider Irfan Pathan. I know he isn't a good bowler but neither is Nehra so let's at least get someone who can bat and field.

 

[Sanz]

The two aren't mutually exclusive. It was both an epic chase and a choke.

But the position it came down to, we choked from there on.

Players like Jadeja, Kumar,, Munaf, Nehra etc are not there yet to compete at the level you would need to be in such high powered situations.

You have those guys at the end in similar situations and 9 out of 10 times those guys will give you the same result.

I hope you are not calling Tendulkar's inning a choke.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Maybe we should look to stealing someone like Shakib from Bangladesh. England seem to get away with that sort of stuff all the time

 

[Ikki]

Reckon Pratters has a point. If it was 5 runs off 19 balls with 5 wickets remaining for example, you wouldn't care how many other teams failed chasing a total of 351. India's task was not that easy of course but still quite winnable.

 

[G.I.Joe]

I think its supposed to be a choke when you think you should have won from there. I for one, had no confidence in Kumar, Nehra and Munaf pulling it off. Jadeja had me going for a while, but he too reverted back to type.

 

[silentstriker]

No choke, since I thought from the beginning Australia would win it, even right before the end.

 

[Uppercut]

It was the very definition of a choke. Turning a very difficult task into an extremely straightforward one then completely throwing it away by losing your heads. When Jadeja was run out you could hear the choking from here.

 

[The Sean]

Think Holding got 70 odd in that knock so it would be close

194* by Coventry had a 37 by Matsikenyeri in the same innings. That seems to be the biggest difference among the huge innings' I can think of.

194 by Anwar had 39 apiece from Inzi and Ijaz for company. Although he did employ a runner for the last 100 runs or so.

Kirmani made 24 to go with Kapil's 175.

Nah Holding barely got double figures IIRC (despite a partnership of over 100 with Viv!) and I'm pretty sure that Eldine Baptiste was second top score with 20-odd (I want to say 26). So I'd reckon Viv's 189* still has that record.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Nah Holding barely got double figures IIRC (despite a partnership of over 100 with Viv!) and I'm pretty sure that Eldine Baptiste was second top score with 20-odd (I want to say 26). So I'd reckon Viv's 189* still has that record.

Thanks, found it. You're right. Cricket Web Stats Spider - Scorecard - Texaco Trophy: 1st ODI, 1984

 

[aussie]

It was the very definition of a choke. Turning a very difficult task into an extremely straightforward one then completely throwing it away by losing your heads. When Jadeja was run out you could hear the choking from here.

Word. After Raina got out & Tendy was obviously tiring, IND lacked a Boucher/Bevan type player at the end.

 

[Manee]

Word. After Raina got out & Tendy was obviously tiring, IND lacked a Boucher/Bevan type player at the end.

Simply because we were playing five bowlers. Not only did we not have a qualified finisher at seven, we didn't even have a batsman.

 

[Sir Alex]

Hi all what a great match of cricket it was! I thought India would never come close after Australia posted that humungous total. I am so much happy and sad seeing Sachin Tendulkar hitting 17000 runs and crafting a masterpiece but failing to take India over the line. I got reminded of the test match against Pakistan in Chennai circa 1999. Australia showed their depth of talent and it is indeed a proof of why they are number one. They lost so many players to injuries and I expected India to utilise that. However they simply showed playing in the yellows synergise them to outperform their individual abilities. Hats off Australia. Thanks Sachin for a great game. India always seem like adjusting to the opposition's level. It is frustrating to see them not showing consistency. I think Raina and Jadeja played ok but others were poor. Questions need to be asked of Sehwag and his inability to score big runs against Australia. He always seem to relish under par attacks on easy pitches like New Zealand (no offence against New Zealand). I also think we need to bring in a new pacer instead of Munaf Patel.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Word. After Raina got out & Tendy was obviously tiring, IND lacked a Boucher/Bevan type player at the end.

But wouldn't it have been a choke only if India had a Boucher/Bevan at the end and they failed? As things stand it simply was a matter of lack of resources once Raina and Tendulkar departed. If anything, Raina and Tendulkar pulled off an unchoking after the top order had bottled it.

 

[Dissector]

Simply because we were playing five bowlers. Not only did we not have a qualified finisher at seven, we didn't even have a batsman.

Actually Jadeja is supposed to be an all-rounder and he averages 38 in first-class cricket. Clearly he doesn't cut it at international level but he isn't a pure bowler.

But your general point is completely right. Having decent batsmen at 7 and 8 makes all the difference in these tight chases. And when you don't have them the opposition always feels one or two wickets will get them back in the game.

 

[Jono]

Tendulkar has been pretty mediocre this series as yet. If they manage to get Sehwag, Yuvi and Dhoni under 120-150, it may be tough for India.

I believe in the "you're only as good as your last game" theory.

History is all well and good for cricket books and stories. Winning a series is another thing. Would you put your money on Tendulkar winning this series for us?

Sachin's last game not too bad then hey

Wasn't able to win the game, but did better than Yuvraj, Dhoni and the rest.

 

[Pratters]

If they required 45 off 36 balls, then a wicket fell and India lost, it wouldn't be choking.

Here, regardless of the class of batsmen, the requirement was just 19 off 17.

What did we see?

Tendulkar played a fancy shot which got him out.

Jadeja almost ran himself out before running himself out.

Nehra tried to slog it for a six when he should have tried staying at the wicket.

Praveen Kumar played pretty sensibly before the last ball but he definitely should have dived on the last ball.

19 off 17 with 4-5 wickets including Tendulkar, Jadeja, Praveen Kumar and Harbhajan Singh left to be dismissed is indeed choking.

 

[Pratters]

I call it a fan choke when they can not distinguish between a choke and epic chase.

Great. Start attacking the poster instead of trying to argue the point at hand. This is exactly why I said you are a cranky poster at your worst. When we have had Tendulkar debates, which I have been proven right and you wrong more often than not, you have always attacked me for being a Tendulkar fan and have been unable to come up with reasonable points.

This tendency of attacking the poster is also seen in your debates with muslims in the forum where you have alleged top quality posters like Fusion. This is why you will always remain a mediocre poster - ad hominem attacks.

 

[Manee]

I've gone through anger, I just about want to cry right now.