Jacob Oram - more speed please?

[Mingster]

Man, his bowling really got outshone by Flintoff's in the Test series, and his lack of any real speed over 80mph really showed. He has a big future ahead of him in Tests and ODIs, and his batting has enormous potential to be a international-class 7.

His bowling is around 128-130, and the lack of any speed really negates any bounce he gets. If he could just gain another yard of pace, he would be a good addition to the NZ's bowling attack as a major strike weapon.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Man, his bowling really got outshone by Flintoff's in the Test series, and his lack of any real speed over 80mph really showed. He has a big future ahead of him in Tests and ODIs, and his batting has enormous potential to be a international-class 7.

His bowling is around 128-130, and the lack of any speed really negates any bounce he gets. If he could just gain another yard of pace, he would be a good addition to the NZ's bowling attack as a major strike weapon.

The thing is its hard enough on the body when you are an allrounder as it is, to ask him to give an extra 10% might result in him breaking down alot more like we're seeing from Flintoff a tad due to overbowling him over the last 12-18 months.

 

[Mingster]

The thing is its hard enough on the body when you are an allrounder as it is, to ask him to give an extra 10% might result in him breaking down alot more like we're seeing from Flintoff a tad due to overbowling him over the last 12-18 months.

Who said 10%? That's an extra 13km/h of speed. 5% would do fine thanks.

If you are going to say that, you might as well say that cricketers should stop working out, or improve that performance because it might injure that bodies.

 

[blackcapsrule]

I agree he needs more speed but he takes all his wickets by bounce anyway.

 

[Andre]

Man, his bowling really got outshone by Flintoff's in the Test series, and his lack of any real speed over 80mph really showed. He has a big future ahead of him in Tests and ODIs, and his batting has enormous potential to be a international-class 7.

His bowling is around 128-130, and the lack of any speed really negates any bounce he gets. If he could just gain another yard of pace, he would be a good addition to the NZ's bowling attack as a major strike weapon.

I don't think you are quite being fair on him - he was veyr impressive at Lords, didn't bowl due to injury at Headingly and bowled without much match fitness at Trent Bridge, so any judgement you make on him at this stage isn't really well informed.

 

[blackcapsrule]

I don't think you are quite being fair on him - he was veyr impressive at Lords, didn't bowl due to injury at Headingly and bowled without much match fitness at Trent Bridge, so any judgement you make on him at this stage isn't really well informed.

Just wait until the ODIs.

 

[Andre]

Just wait until the ODIs.

But he's a stock bowler at international level. His role is not to blast out opposition sides, and it never has been. It's more to keep the runs down and take a few cheap wickets, because he's never going to destroy a batting line-up.

 

[Craig]

A lot like Andrew Flintoff then?

 

[blackcapsrule]

I meant his batting

 

[Mr. P]

he hits the pitch very hard, and does well enough with the bounce and pace he generates.

i don't think any more speed would improve him much.

 

[blackcapsrule]

Yes, his bounce helps him enough to foerfeit pace.

 

[Prince EWS]

If you are only judging him on the England test series, it is very unfair, especially if you are referring only to the last test!

He was injurred in that last test, and wasnt supposed to bowl, except he did out of neccessity. He is quite capable over getting up to the 135-140 range consistantly when hes fully fit.

 

[tooextracool]

Man, his bowling really got outshone by Flintoff's in the Test series, and his lack of any real speed over 80mph really showed. He has a big future ahead of him in Tests and ODIs, and his batting has enormous potential to be a international-class 7.

His bowling is around 128-130, and the lack of any speed really negates any bounce he gets. If he could just gain another yard of pace, he would be a good addition to the NZ's bowling attack as a major strike weapon.

quite unnecessary, his height allows him to get more bounce from the wicket and makes up for any deficiencies in pace. he bowled well at lords and was clearly still struggling with injury at trent bridge. if he can improve his accuracy he can be a very very effective bowler.

 

[BlackCap_Fan]

Hes a tall guy. If he goes for those extra few yards of pace, he could get problems with his feet and ankles.

He's 6ft 6, (or 6 ft 7?) so that can put a lot of strain on your feet, ankles and legs (more so on the former then the latter, though)

Just my two cents. He's not made of solid Iron, although I admit hes pretty well built.

 

[Loony BoB]

I'm sure that Oram, too, would like to have an increase of speed. As would Tuffey, Styris, Franklin and every other 80mph bowler we have. I'm pretty confident that at least half the bowlers in the world would like a bit more speed. Hell, I'd like to bowl with a bit more speed, and I don't even play cricket. I'd also like our batsmen to be better and our bowlers to take more wickets. >=D

 

[Top_Cat]

Someone has to say it; speed does not guarantee wickets. Ask Brett Lee.

As a few people said, he's been a little injured of late. Give the boy his due, eh?

 

[blackcapsrule]

Good quote.

 

[sportychic33]

Being a Jacob Oram fan for a couple of years now i don't think it is worth it asking him to bowl faster. Anyway when he is fully fit he can get up to the high 130's and i have seen him bowl faster than tuffey. If we ask him to consistently bowl fast i think that he will more injuries and it wouldn't be worth it.

 

[blackcapsrule]

Being a Jacob Oram fan for a couple of years now i don't think it is worth it asking him to bowl faster. Anyway when he is fully fit he can get up to the high 130's and i have seen him bowl faster than tuffey. If we ask him to consistently bowl fast i think that he will more injuries and it wouldn't be worth it.

That is totally correct. He is playing just fine without lightning pace.

 

[Craig]

Someone has to say it; speed does not guarantee wickets. Ask Brett Lee.

As a few people said, he's been a little injured of late. Give the boy his due, eh?

A 'little injured'?

I'm adding that as a new phrase in the English language.