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Russo can be good if he has a filter. Cornette was the filter.

Is Bill Watts still alive he would be awesome.

Though I think Russo is an absolute idiot, I would agree that he can be ok in moderation. I always thought Dutch Mantell was worse than Russo in most ways, not sure if he even works for TNA these days though.

 

[GIMH]

Russo's a complete and utter tool, can't believe he still tries to take credit for the attitude era. The guy should be put down.

 

[sledger]

Russo's a complete and utter tool, can't believe he still tries to take credit for the attitude era. The guy should be put down.

Shut it, he was the WCW champion goddamn you.

 

[GIMH]

The second worst WCW champ of all-time

 

[sledger]

The second worst WCW champ of all-time

Hulk Hogan being the worst, obviously

 

[Retox]

"Everyone was in a production meeting with Russo running down the show, but Cornette went nuts screaming 'why are we pushing Eric Young?'," according to The Sun's source. "Russo reacted calmly and said it wasn't a big deal, but Cornette wouldn't let it go and kept screaming about it, really causing a scene. He just wouldn't stop. Even after the meeting broke, Cornette was walking around complaining to everyone who would listen."

A few concerned co-workers went to management to voice their displeasure over their belief that Cornette had been acting unprofessionally. Apparently, this was "his latest refusal to be a pro," so the organization decided to release him from his contract.

Similarly, Cornette was released by World Wrestling Entertainment in July 2005 after slapping current WWE star Santino Marella for breaking character and laughing at The Boogeyman during a live Ohio Valley Wrestling show.

It has been said that the last few Impacts (with the focus on younger talent) have been most of Russos work so atleast he wants to push new talent

 

[sledger]

Hmmm, that is interesting. Much as I like Cornette, and think he is great, there is no doubt that he is a fiery character and prone to bouts of madness. The Santino incident was quite well publicised, but despite acting like an idiot on that occasion I still think that was WWE's loss, as him working with the up and coming guys would have done wonders for them really. Not really sure why the E pulled out of OVW in the first place to be honest, seems like quite a good place to send young workers. Most baffling part of that (if true) is why on earth Cornette has a problem with pushing Eric Young, have always thought he was quite good myself.

 

[GIMH]

Yeah, I love Cornette but he needs to get over the fact that nobody cares about kayfabe anymore. He wrote a piece a couple of months ago saying that in his day, if a heel and face were caught having a beer together then they were both fired. Nobody believes in wrestling in that way and he needs to move on.

 

[sledger]

Yeah, I love Cornette but he needs to get over the fact that nobody cares about kayfabe anymore. He wrote a piece a couple of months ago saying that in his day, if a heel and face were caught having a beer together then they were both fired. Nobody believes in wrestling in that way and he needs to move on.

Yeah, needs to take a chill pill tbh. Think you sent me a youtube video of him shooting on WCW guys, which is kind of contradictory to his general stance on Kayfabe, considering some of the things he said. Think he may have a point about Kayfabe mind you, I quite like how Kayfabe is broken from time to time, for the odd joke or the odd feud, if done right it can be awesome, but I remember WWE went through a period about a year or two back when they were breaking Kayfabe for all sorts of stupid **** which just made the whole show lose credibility.

 

[GIMH]

Yeah, of course, disrespecting kayfabe too much makes a mockery of the product which is what happened under Russo in WCW. It would be like Jack coming out on Corry and saying "I couldn't stand vera in real life and I don't even drink bitter," but if two wrestlers are having a beer in the hotel when they're out on the road, does anyone really give a ****?

 

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In June 2008, at the One Night Stand PPV, Triple H battled Randy Orton in a Last Man Standing match for the WWE Championship. At one point during the match, Orton was supposed to attempt an RKO on Triple H, which was then supposed to be countered, resulting in Orton being thrown over the top rope to the floor. Yet as Orton hit the floor, he suffered a legitimate broken collarbone, and as he was writhing in agony, Triple H could be seen discussing with the referee and the EMTs whether or not to continue the match. In the recorded broadcast it can clearly be seen and heard as the referee advises Triple H to conclude the match early by saying "get the sledgehammer, the sledgehammer" and continuously telling him to "be careful". Triple H then took out his signature sledgehammer, and proceeded to hit Orton in the head with it, thus finishing the match.

Haha, have never heard about this before, but always laugh when you see the ref doing stuff like this.

 

[GIMH]

That's mad, me and my bro were reading that on wiki before. You look up kayfabe on wiki by any chance?

 

[sledger]

Yeah, of course, disrespecting kayfabe too much makes a mockery of the product which is what happened under Russo in WCW. It would be like Jack coming out on Corry and saying "I couldn't stand vera in real life and I don't even drink bitter," but if two wrestlers are having a beer in the hotel when they're out on the road, does anyone really give a ****?

Haha indeed, I don't think anyone other than a hardcore fan who somehow doesn't realise that wrestling is not 100% real (like the one who got punched out by Jericho WAG) would have a problem with this. Though it was worked, Matt Hardy's break of kayfabe when he started calling Edge by his first name and shouting about how the WWE was crap and how he was going to join ROH live on RAW that one time was awesome though, check out the link below, the whole thing looked so real, the way Hardy and Edge's punches both look really stiff, the way Edge jumps up immediately after being attacked and shouts "what the ****!" and everything that follows. One of my favourite RAW moments, will always like Matt Hardy for this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7K0oNE8zfo

 

[sledger]

That's mad, me and my bro were reading that on wiki before. You look up kayfabe on wiki by any chance?

Yeah, just looked it up to see if I could find any other funny incidents where it has been ignored. It's funny, I remember there was a time on Wiki, that when you typed in "controversy" it would bring up a list of results, one of which being "Montreal Screwjob".

 

[GIMH]

Yeah, that was a really good example of a worked shoot. That's the sort of evolution in kayfabe I like.

 

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YouTube - Joey Styles quits WWE (Worked Shoot)

This is another really really good example of a worked shoot, funny thing is, I agree with more or less everything he says as well.

 

[GIMH]

Been looking for the Foley shoot from November 2001 on Raw for ages but can't find it on utoob

 

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YouTube - WWF - Kaientai - Chinese Secret and XFL Blimp


Haha, good old borderline Racist creative team

 

[chalky]

This is the main reason why Cena haters really annoy me tbh, the amount of times Cena has taken major bumps and put his body through a hell of a lot more than most others on the roster in the name of putting on a good show is up there above a lot of the "top performers", I can't remember a time when HHH wore a load of kendo stick shots like that or took a tumble from the top of a ladder to the outside of the ring. Even if you think Cena is the worst wrestler ever (which he clearly is not) you surely have to respect how much the guy is willing to give for the fans, he really seems passionate about what he does, I'm not a massive fan of the guy, but I do like him, and sure as hell respect what he does.

I hate Cena TBH find his matches predictable and formulaec (sp), his moveset really weak & unconvincing. I haven't been able watch 1 of his matches the whole way through since the TLC with Edge a few years back. His promo's are even worse they are like what an 8 year olds would say when challanging someone in the playground.

I'm still confused about his character he sort of went from Rapper, to Marine a couple of years ago & is nothing now.

 

[sledger]

I hate Cena TBH find his matches predictable and formulaec (sp), his moveset really weak & unconvincing. I haven't been able watch 1 of his matches the whole way through since the TLC with Edge a few years back. His promo's are even worse they are like what an 8 year olds would say when challanging someone in the playground.

I'm still confused about his character he sort of went from Rapper, to Marine a couple of years ago & is nothing now.

Can you honestly say that the matches of a moden day HHH are any less formulaic though? I for one cannot. Cena's matches might not be the most exciting, but they are usually no worse than most a lot of other guys on the card. I would say only HBK, Jericho and the Undertaker are any great length ahead of him in this regard. Also he is a very gifted mic worker, his promo's are obviously scripted so he can only take minimal blame for their content.