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*Official* Australia in England T20s and ODIs
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King Pietersen
International Captain
His stats this season beg to differ:
FP Trophy: 546 runs at 60.66 with 3 hundreds
Pro40: 337 runs at 67.40 runs with 3 half centuries (one of those a 94 when the rest of the side capitulated)
These compare with his FC stats: 787 runs at 41.42 with 2 hundreds.
I'd say One Day cricket has been his speciality since joining Sussex.
FP Trophy: 546 runs at 60.66 with 3 hundreds
Pro40: 337 runs at 67.40 runs with 3 half centuries (one of those a 94 when the rest of the side capitulated)
These compare with his FC stats: 787 runs at 41.42 with 2 hundreds.
I'd say One Day cricket has been his speciality since joining Sussex.
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Brought in for the Ireland ODI, got a duck, sent back to Warwickshire and got a 93.
At one stage I think England needed 120 off 100 balls with 7 wickets in hand i.e. a piece of piss and despite falling four runs short, I knew England never had a pray.
Nasser at the end was deluded. There was nothing great about England tonight. Exciting game but as Dav said, only because both teams were poor.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
So, anyone looking forwards to the start of the series on Sunday?
Nah, missed the game, heard it was decent tbf, nice for the Aussies to experience being ahead in something after being in the country for about 7 months
Jakester1288
International Regular
OK. Happy I went to bed last night.
Firstly, Clarke is rubbish. He has been rubbish for quite some time, since about the World Cup in 07. Also, Ferguson is god.
Firstly, Clarke is rubbish. He has been rubbish for quite some time, since about the World Cup in 07. Also, Ferguson is god.
grecian
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
To be fair there was quite a lot of "clarke is ghey" from your lot that ran and ran. Let's face it, it was a poor quality game and lot's of scope for whining.FMD, you English sure know how to whinge don't you. 5 pages of exactly the same thing "FFS etc."
Johnners & Ferguson (y)
I'm pretty flummoxed by Clarke's quite incredible decline at one day cricket, it's not often you see a good ODI batsmen get quite this bad, they usually get better and better, even more amazing considering his test form. Surely he's not stuck in test mode? Has he just cut out a lot of shots from his repertoire? Has he just become a lot more conservative in his approach? I'm actually considering watching some old footage or something. The way he was bogged down by the spinners today, working them around in the middle overs used to be his specialty, it's like he's a completely different player over the last 2 years or so.
Ferguson's looking more and more impressive, surprised at his very moderate FC stats. Reminds me a little of Bevan.
Rashid was good, was better with the bat than I expected. I'm still not entirely convinced with Luke Wright, he plays the shots of a power player, and in fairness it seems to come off, but he doesn't really have the physique to be that kind of player, I do get the impression that he tries to force the pace a bit too much sometimes and that if he played a bit more to his own tempo he'd score more heavily. Prior ain't a no.3, Shah would be better suited to that role in KP's absence.
Ferguson's looking more and more impressive, surprised at his very moderate FC stats. Reminds me a little of Bevan.
Rashid was good, was better with the bat than I expected. I'm still not entirely convinced with Luke Wright, he plays the shots of a power player, and in fairness it seems to come off, but he doesn't really have the physique to be that kind of player, I do get the impression that he tries to force the pace a bit too much sometimes and that if he played a bit more to his own tempo he'd score more heavily. Prior ain't a no.3, Shah would be better suited to that role in KP's absence.
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Don't really get what was so poor-quality about it. The bowling was perfectly good, with some really excellent performances thrown in, and the pitch made scoring runs very difficult. It was a bit scrappy and didn't look very pretty but I don't think it was a case of two teams playing very badly. Ravi Bopara and Michael Clarke have just kinda stank up the joint I suppose.
NUFAN
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About a year or two ago Clarke was either the highest or second highest batsman in terms of making runs on the highest percentage of balls in ODI worldwide.
So annoying watching him hit it straight to the bowler so often, because if he gets past the bowler it'll only be a single anyways.
Johnners
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Was 'bout 15 posts of it, rest was Scaly/Pizzorno/Zaremba ffs'ing
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Davies, Bopara, Pietersen and Trott should be England's top 4 in 50 and 20 over cricket for the next few years IMO.
pup11
International Coach
I think these days he bats with too much of fear of failure, he was dropped from the test side because his technique and shot selections weren't considered good enough at that time, but ever since he returned to test cricket with a "tighter technique", his limited overs game has been on the decline.
Though there aren't any radical changes he needs to make to his game, he just needs to play across the line and be a bit unorthodox at times, because his orthodox style of batting which is great for test cricket, makes it that much easier for captains and bowlers to choke him in the limited overs format.
Though the good thing is he himself is aware that his limited overs game isn't nowhere near where it should be atm, and he is on a slippery slope atm, and if he doesn't resurrects things soon, then he would definitely be at the risk of being dropped.
As for the game yesterday, it was a pretty good one tbh, and showed that the much maligned ODI format still has it in it to produce a riveting contest, credit to Wright and Rashid for making such a game of it, but in the end we we're good enough to hold our nerves till end.
Ferguson was awesome yesterday, and I think Clarke can take a few lessons from the way he batted, he too like Clarke found batting pretty tough, but rather then pushing the ball straight back to the bowler, he kept opening the face of his bat and running it into the gaps, which kept the scoreboard ticking, and eventually he made lifted his SR in the batting power-play.
Despite all the criticism of Clarke regarding the way he batted, still as a captain I think he handled things pretty nicely yesterday, made pro-active and interesting bowling changes, and though his field placements were left a lot be desired (especially to Haurrie's bowling), but still it was good to see he wasn't mechanical in his decision making.
howardj
International Coach
Why do teams leave themselves so much to do in the last 5-7 overs?
I think the power-play is making them think they can just let things cruise from overs 15-45, and then somehow score 80 off the last 5 overs.
Like England today were chasing a decent, but not massive score.
But they just didn't time things well enough and gave themselves too much to do at the end.
I think the power-play is making them think they can just let things cruise from overs 15-45, and then somehow score 80 off the last 5 overs.
Like England today were chasing a decent, but not massive score.
But they just didn't time things well enough and gave themselves too much to do at the end.
pup11
International Coach
I don't there is much wrong with leaving your batting power-play to be used in the last 10 overs when chasing a target if you power hitters at the crease to use them, think England were slightly unlucky yesterday, lots of there batsmen got out in unusual ways, and I think that led to them losing momentum at crucial times.