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*Official* England in West Indies

Neil Pickup

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they need to re-jig the d/l.with the advent of t-20 these kinds of scores will be chased very easily.they need to top load the total for the chasing team.
So, your suggestion? It's not about making it a hard chase, it's making it an equivalent chase to the pursuit of 240 off 50 overs. If the WI wanted us to chase more, they should have bloody scored more after being 72-0 after 11. It's not a difficult batting track.
 

Daryl Harper

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Hopefully there will be more rain to end this farce and we can go home with a no result.

It isn't fair. This is easier for England than 240 off 50 would have been.
 

Neil Pickup

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Hopefully there will be more rain to end this farce and we can go home with a no result.

It isn't fair. This is easier for England than 240 off 50 would have been.
No, it's easy at present because Baker and Edwards bowled such indisciplined tripe with the new ball.

I say it again, give some numbers, and then we'll see what effect it would have on other revised targets, and whether anything in this argument has weight.
 

gvenkat

State Captain
England would have struggled if it was 240 of 50.. With KP and Flintoff out...This D/L always favors the team batting second...Especially in a rain affected circumstance.
 

Evermind

International Debutant
Hopefully there will be more rain to end this farce and we can go home with a no result.

It isn't fair. This is easier for England than 240 off 50 would have been.
How so? I don't think so. That's the whole point of D/L. The R/R required is far higher. The only reason you're saying that is because they're doing a good job of chasing - are we so used to England messing it up that it can't possibly be reasonable if they're doing it with ease?

Random remarks:

- Strauss seems really determined, good for him
- Bopara is a total muppet
- I enjoy watching Edwards bowl
 

Neil Pickup

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England would have struggled if it was 240 of 50.. With KP and Flintoff out...This D/L always favors the team batting second...Especially in a rain affected circumstance.
So you expect the adjustment system to take account of batting order and injuries? And you expect that to work how?
 

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
Don't see what's wrong with 135 off 20. It's a below-par T20 score, about the same way as 240 is a below-par ODI score.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
How so? I don't think so. That's the whole point of D/L. The R/R required is far higher. The only reason you're saying that is because they're doing a good job of chasing - are we so used to England messing it up that it can't possibly be reasonable if they're doing it with ease?

Random remarks:

- Strauss seems really determined, good for him
- Bopara is a total muppet
Because he's taking a single every ball he faces to give the inform Strauss the strike?
 

gvenkat

State Captain
So you expect the adjustment system to take account of batting order and injuries? And you expect that to work how?
The system should take in to account that the team batting second knew that they were going to chase only for 20 overs and not 50 and some runs should be added for that...

I think they do that if an innings is interrupted...
 

gvenkat

State Captain
Don't see what's wrong with 135 off 20. It's a below-par T20 score, about the same way as 240 is a below-par ODI score.
Nope 240 on this wicket was a good score with KP and Freddie out... Injured.. Windies shafted here again by Messrs. Duckworth and Lewis.. Last time it was Dyson... :laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

cowboysfan

U19 Debutant
So, your suggestion? It's not about making it a hard chase, it's making it an equivalent chase to the pursuit of 240 off 50 overs. If the WI wanted us to chase more, they should have bloody scored more after being 72-0 after 11. It's not a difficult batting track.
equivalent chases will turn into farces especially if the match is reduced to 20 overs.look at the way england are playing now-wickets dont matter if its just 20 overs.nothing is equal if the match is reduced to 20 overs-chasing teams will always have a huge advantage.
 

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