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***Official India in New Zealand***

Athlai

Athlai

Not Terrible
Precambrian said:
What is exactly the point you are trying to make? The players below him Jaya and Attapattu are very mediocre batsmen outside subcontinent.
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That while you were were criticizing his record in South Africa only one batsman from India/Pakistan and Sri Lanka have a better record.

Making Laxman the second most successful ever in South African conditions.

Now if we turn our eye to English conditions where does he turn up?
(qualification of 400 runs)

Where he is 13th overall.
 
Precambrian

Precambrian

Banned
Athlai said:
That while you were were criticizing his record in South Africa only one batsman from India/Pakistan and Sri Lanka have a better record.

Making Laxman the second most successful ever in South African conditions.

Now if we turn our eye to English conditions where does he turn up?
(qualification of 400 runs)

Where he is 13th overall.
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Averages can be hugely misleading in such a case, particularly because, you are judging a batsman to be the second best ever player in SA despite him not having scored a single century there.

And 13th overall (among subconti batsmen?) in England is not exactly the hallmark of greatness.
 
Athlai

Athlai

Not Terrible
Precambrian said:
Averages can be hugely misleading in such a case, particularly because, you are judging a batsman to be the second best ever player in SA despite him not having scored a single century there.

And 13th overall (among subconti batsmen?) in England is not exactly the hallmark of greatness.
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Nor have almost any other player from the sub-continent.

On an unrelated note looking through Laxmans records, he has scored a century every year for the last 9 years. Which is looking like an un equalled feat in modern cricket. What a guy. If he gets one in 09 that'll make it 10.
 
Precambrian

Precambrian

Banned
Pratters said:
It is not one inning though. He is good in South Africa, England and Australia and hasn't been tested in New Zealand decently.
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He is exceptional in Australia. But then, grounds there hardly are bowler friendly.

He is mediocre in SA.
He is mediocre in England.
He is bull**** in NZ.
 
Precambrian

Precambrian

Banned
Athlai said:
Nor have almost any other player from the sub-continent.

On an unrelated note looking through Laxmans records, he has scored a century every year for the last 9 years. Which is looking like an un equalled feat in modern cricket. What a guy. If he gets one in 09 that'll make it 10.
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Dravid is on 12, and a century this year makes it 13.
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Athlai said:
Best new ball Test bowlers in the world:

Steyn
Johnson (Lee)
Sharma
Edwards
Anderson
Khan
Ntini

I'd say a fully fit on form Lee would give Australia the best opening pair (possibly inc. Clark too)
Then I'd say SA and Ind are about equal.

We should get O'Brien to open the bowling, would do better than Martin.
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Jerome Taylor ahead of Ntini and Anderson.
 
Athlai

Athlai

Not Terrible
TT Boy said:
Jerome Taylor ahead of Ntini and Anderson.
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Bowls first change usually though? The only reason I omitted him. Edwards-Powell is the usual new ball partnership IIRC. Edwards-Taylor could actually challenge the other pairings listed though. Too bad they're the only good bowlers West Indies have got.
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Pratters said:
Combined averages favour Laxman. If RSA is the standard, Tendulkar and others can't play swing bowling either. You are just picking holes for the sake of it. Any ways, it is England where it swings most, not South Africa or New Zealand.
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Yeah seam is more apparent in South Africa then swing. Just have to watch the current series in the Republic to see that.
 
TT Boy

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Athlai said:
Bowls first change usually though? The only reason I omitted him. Edwards-Powell is the usual new ball partnership IIRC. Edwards-Taylor could actually challenge the other pairings listed though. Too bad they're the only good bowlers West Indies have got.
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Took new ball against England (1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th tests) and didn’t he take new ball against New Zealand?
 
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