Jumping the Shark Draft

[Jamee999]

Matt, when will the order for the last 3 rounds be going up?

 

[NUFAN]

Virender Sehwag.

Sehwag xxxx xxxx Compton Miandad xxxx Ames xxxx Bedser Bishop xxxx.

 

[stephen]

Matt, when will the order for the last 3 rounds be going up?

For the last three rounds can we do it like this:

Round 9 random order
Round 10 random order
Round 11 - reverse round 9 order

This way the people who get first pick in round 9 get last pick in round 11 - the two rounds that the bans are lifted.

 

[Matt79]

Rounds 9 and 10 are reverse order of each other. Round 11 is a random order.

The order for round 9 (and therefore 10) will be announced once round 8 is complete.

The order for round 11 will be announced when round 10 is complete.

 

[Matt79]

Will do feedback for round 6 in a minute.

 

[stephen]

Rounds 9 and 10 are reverse order of each other. Round 11 is a random order.

The order for round 9 (and therefore 10) will be announced once round 8 is complete.

The order for round 11 will be announced when round 10 is complete.

Why can't we change it to have the random order in round 10 instead?

It's much more valuable to get the early picks when players are unlocked.

 

[99*]

Why can't we change it to have the random order in round 10 instead?

It's much more valuable to get the early picks when players are unlocked.

Not really, it just depends on what you are after and how many others there are that also need what you want. Remember there are 31 players banned, after round nine 20 of them are free game, that quite a lot. Unless you are after a certain player there's a good chance there will still be someone you need.

Also, I wonder who the banned player that won't be picked is going to be?

 

[Matt79]

Round 9 will actually see a lot of rejections I think (and this is not a hint, I don't have the list open in front of me as I'm typing this). If you're picking aggressively you're trying to select who the 11th, 12th, 13th etc most nominated player is. You might be able to accurately say who the top 5 are, although the current thread on who are the top five of the modern era highlights how varied results are for that question - but who is the 12th most popular? Don't know that going first or last in that round is as big as deal as you'd think...

 

[Matt79]

Remarkable round.

Pick	Drafter	           Selection	        Accepted?
1.01	Chaminda_00	   Joel Garner	        Accepted
1.02	Mr Wright	   Shoaib Akhtar	Accepted
1.03	99*	           Shaun Pollock	Accepted
1.04	Stephen	           Alan Davidson	Accepted
1.05	Somerset	   Kevin Pietersen	Accepted
1.06	Jamee	           Fred Trueman	        Accepted
1.07	Julian87	   Clarrie Grimmett     Accepted
1.08	Samuel Vimes	   Geoffrey Boycott     Accepted
1.09	Michael7s	   Ray Lindwall	        Rejected
1.10	Nufan	           Jim Laker	        Rejected
1a.01	Michael7s(2nd att) Richie Benaud	Accepted
1a.02	Nufan (2nd att)	   Alec Bedser	        Accepted
			
2.01	Nufan	           Javed Miandad	Accepted
2.02	Michael7s	   Sid Barnes	        Accepted
2.03	Samuel Vimes	   Michael Holding	Accepted
2.04	Julian87	   Steve Waugh	        Accepted
2.05	Jamee	           Waqar Younis	        Accepted
2.06	Somerset	   Graeme Pollock	Rejected
2.07	Stephen	           Bill O'Reilly	Rejected
2.08	99*	           Glenn McGrath	Rejected
2.09	Mr Wright	   Dean Jones	        Accepted
2.10	Chaminda_00	   Wasim Akram	        Rejected
2a.01	Somerset	   Len Hutton	        Rejected
2a.02	Stephen	           Anil Kumble	        Accepted
2a.03	99*	           Adam Gilchrist	Rejected
2a.04	Chaminda_00	   Allan Donald	        Rejected
2b.01	Somerset	   Wilf Rhodes	        Accepted
2b.02	99*	           Jacques Kallis	Accepted
2b.03	Chaminda_00	   Frank Tyson	        Accepted
			
3.01	Somerset           Ian Botham           Accepted
3.02	Chaminda_00        Everton Weekes       Accepted
3.03	Nufan              Courtney Walsh       Rejected
3.04	Michael7s          Charles Macartney    Accepted
3.05	99*                Ken Barrington       Accepted
3.06	Samuel Vimes       Greg Chappell        Accepted
3.07	Jamee              Dennis Lillee        Rejected
3.08	Stephen            Kumar Sangakkara     Rejected
3.09	Mr Wright          Alec Stewart         Accepted
3.10	Julian87           Wes Hall             Accepted
3a.01	Nufan              Ian Bishop           Accepted
3a.02	Jamee              Graeme Smith         Accepted
3a.03	Stephen            Ian Healy            Accepted
			
4.01	Julian87           Neil Harvey          Accepted
4.02	Mr Wright          Inzimam-ul-Haq       Accepted
4.03	Stephen            Andy Roberts         Accepted
4.04	Jamee              Kapil Dev            [COLOR="Red"]Rejected[/COLOR]
4.05	Samuel Vimes       Keith Miller         [COLOR="Red"]Rejected[/COLOR]
4.06	99*                Edward Paynter       Accepted
4.07	Michael7s          Walter Hammond       Accepted
4.08	Nufan              Les Ames             Accepted
4.09	Chaminda_00        Sunil Gavaskar       [COLOR="Red"]Rejected[/COLOR]
4.10	Somerset           Frank Worrell        Accepted
4a.01	Jamee	           Justin Langer	Accepted
4a.02	Samuel Vimes	   Rahul Dravid	        Accepted
4a.03	Chaminda_00	   George Headley	Accepted
			
5.01	Nufan	           Denis Compton	Accepted
5.02	Stephen	           Clyde Walcott	Accepted
5.03	Chaminda	   Aubrey Faulkner	Accepted
5.04	Mr Wright	   Stuart MacGill	Accepted
5.05	Somerset	   Allan Border	        Rejected
5.06	Vimes	           Brian Statham 	Accepted
5.07	Julien87	   Ian Chappell	        Accepted
5.08	Jamee	           Fanie de Villiers	Accepted
5.09	Michael7s	   John Waite	        Accepted
5.10	99*	           Brian Lara	        Rejected
5a.01	Somerset	   Mike Procter	        Accepted
5a.02	99*	           Shane Bond	        Accepted
			
6.01	99*	           Alan Knott	        [B]Accepted[/B]
6.02	Michael7s	   Jack Gregory	        [B]Accepted[/B]
6.03	Jamee	           Clive Lloyd	        [B]Accepted[/B]
6.04	Julien87	   Arthur Morris	[B]Accepted[/B]
6.05	Vimes	           Farokh Engineer	[B]Accepted[/B]
6.06	Somerset	   Ricky Ponting	[B]Accepted[/B]
6.07	Mr Wright	   Craig McDermott	[B]Accepted[/B]
6.08	Chaminda	   Peter Pollock	[B]Accepted[/B]
6.09	Stephen	           Bob Simpson	        [B]Accepted[/B]
6.10	Nufan	           Virender Sehwag	[B]Accepted[/B]

7.01 Jamee
7.02 Mr Wright
7.03 99*
7.04 Julien87
7.05 Somerset
7.06 Samuel Vimes
7.07 Chaminda
7.08 Stephen
7.09 Nufan
7.10 Michael7

8.01 Michael7s
8.02 Nufan
8.03 Stephen
8.04 Chaminda
8.05 Samuel Vimes
8.06 Somerset
8.07 Julien87
8.08 99*
8.09 Mr Wright
8.10 Jamee

 

[stephen]

Round 9 will actually see a lot of rejections I think (and this is not a hint, I don't have the list open in front of me as I'm typing this). If you're picking aggressively you're trying to select who the 11th, 12th, 13th etc most nominated player is. You might be able to accurately say who the top 5 are, although the current thread on who are the top five of the modern era highlights how varied results are for that question - but who is the 12th most popular? Don't know that going first or last in that round is as big as deal as you'd think...

Hmmm I was under the impression that we were going to learn who the unbanned players were before round 9 started.

Basically round 11 is going to be a "lucky dip to see who gets Bradman", with the consolation prize being Sobers.

 

[stephen]

Well with the information available now and information based on my own picks, I am reasonably certain that I have constructed the final 31, though I'm not telling anyone

 

[Matt79]

Teams so far:

[B]99*[/B]
*
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Eddie Paynter
Ken Barrington
Jacques Kallis
*
Alan Knott
Shaun Pollock
*
*
Shane Bond

[B]Chaminda_00[/B]
*
*
George Headley
Everton Weekes
*
Aubrey Faulkner
*
Peter Pollock
*
Frank Tyson
Joel Garner

[B]Jamee[/B]
Graeme Smith
Justin Langer
*
*
*
Clive Lloyd
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*
Fred Trueman
Fanie de Villiers
Waqar Younis

[B]Nufan[/B]
Virender Sehwag
*
Denis Compton
Javed Miandad
*
Les Ames
*
Alec Bedser
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*
Ian Bishop

[B]Somerset[/B]
Wilf Rhodes
*
Ricky Ponting
Kevin Pietersen
*
Frank Worrell
Ian Botham
Mike Procter
*
*
*

[B]Julien87[/B]
Arthur Morris
*
Ian Chappell
Neil Harvey
Steve Waugh
*
*
*
*
Clarrie Grimmett
Wes Hall

[B]Michael7s[/B]
Sid Barnes
*
Charlie Macartenay
Wally Hammond
*
*
Jack Gregory
John Waite
Richie Benaud
*
*

[B]Mr Wright[/B]
*
*
Dean Jones
Inzamam Ul-Haq
*
*
Alec Stewart
*
Craig McDermott
Stuart MacGill
Shoaib Akhtar

[B]Samuel Vimes[/B]
Geoffrey Boycott
*
Rahul Dravid
Greg Chappell
*
*
Farokh Engineer
*
Michael Holding
Brian Statham
*

[B]Stephen[/B]
Bob Simpson
*
Clyde Walcott
*
*
Ian Healy
*
Alan Davidson
Anil Kumble
Andy Roberts
*

 

[Matt79]

Well with the information available now and information based on my own picks, I am reasonably certain that I have constructed the final 31, though I'm not telling anyone

Exactly, especially by the end of round 8, it will be pretty apparent who the 31, with maybe only a couple of surprises.

 

[Matt79]

Hmmm I was under the impression that we were going to learn who the unbanned players were before round 9 started.

Basically round 11 is going to be a "lucky dip to see who gets Bradman", with the consolation prize being Sobers.

Except that maybe some people will have already opted to load up on batsmen, and if you've only got three specialist bowlers going into round 11, are you really going to take Bradman, or even Sobers? Therein lies the challenge - how much do you risk leaving open, say a middle order spot, a fast bowler's, or say, a wicket keeper's slot, without knowing at what stage in round 11 you get to pick?

 

[chaminda_00]

lol Garner below Tyson.

 

[Matt79]

They're purely guesses - some based on informed opinion, some, especially for bowlers real guesses. Believe it or not, I don't have Garner and Tyson's batting averages readily available off the top of my head (although actually I thought Tyson averaged something like 12-15?).

It's not that I can't be bothered looking it up, its just that I don't really care about the batting order of your tail, you'll get that right when you post your final team.

EDIT: And now I do look it up, Garner averaged 12.75 and Tyson 10.95, so its hardly a yawning gap between the two anyhow...

 

[chaminda_00]

Garner averaged like 18 in FC cricket. Just never needed to score runs at Test level, so he couldn't be arsed. Very similar to Keith Miller, especially in terms of quality when he could be arsed.

 

[Matt79]

Yeah, again, Garner's FC batting average is not something I've ever spent a lot of time considering, but I'll remember it in future

EDIT: And Tyson's FC batting average is 17!

 

[chaminda_00]

There all gun, why **** did I get Pollock then to extend the batting. I'm an idiot.

 

[Matt79]

Makes for a good tail, which is never a bad thing, witness SA of a few years back, and Australia's tail of recent times...