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Road to IPL 2009.

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Is Pieterson really worth 10x more than say a Ross Taylor? This seems to be a pissing competion more than anything.
Clarke should've stayed in - if Duminy is worth $950,000 there are many, many players worth a million or more including Clarke
Agreed.

One of my comments that was moderated by the IPL website was pretty much just this. There is no legitimate performance based evaluation that would put a price tag of $900,000 on Ishant Sharma and $300,000 on Glenn McGrath. None. The number one goal of the franchises right now is to get their product out there and well known. To do that, they need big Indian stars, and big international stars. So the value of a player is not necessarily based on his performance, but overall value he brings to the brand of the franchise. Whether this changes when IPL is a more mature product, and the teams are mostly focused on winning is a different story.

On the other hand, the owners could simply be muppets and may have no idea how to run a cricket team (very likely). The optimal winning strategy would be to get a lot of good players in the $300,000-$500,000 range and remove any weakspots in your team, rather than splurge on two guys and then have nothing behind them.
 

pasag

RTDAS
Agreed.

One of my comments that was moderated by the IPL website was pretty much just this. There is no legitimate performance based evaluation that would put a price tag of $900,000 on Ishant Sharma and $300,000 on Glenn McGrath. None. The number one goal of the franchises right now is to get their product out there and well known. To do that, they need big Indian stars, and big international stars. So the value of a player is not necessarily based on his performance, but overall value he brings to the brand of the franchise. Whether this changes when IPL is a more mature product, and the teams are mostly focused on winning is a different story.

On the other hand, the owners could simply be muppets and may have no idea how to run a cricket team (very likely). The optimal winning strategy would be to get a lot of good players in the $300,000-$500,000 range and remove any weakspots in your team, rather than splurge on two guys and then have nothing behind them.
I think they've figured out by now the best marketing is to win, though Sharma and Duminy were both bought off the hype of the Australian season.
 

Edged&Taken

U19 Vice-Captain
When is the next round of auctions?
no more auctions from what i understand. 15 out of the 17 slots available has been filled today. For the remaining 2 slots and the replacements (for the Pakistanis) , clubs can negotiate with the players directly ( from the unsold lot ) and strike a deal. In replacements, you have to pay your new player same or lesser amount as the Pakistani player you will be replacing. Not sure what happens if 2 clubs want the same player ..
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
So are the overseas selections fixed for all the teams? There are still a few doubts:
  • Mills shifted base to Mumbai. Whom will Punjab have as a replacement?
  • We saw Noffke start for Bangalore last season. Where does he play now?
  • Mumbai are stocked heavily with foreign pacers. Where will someone like Andre Nel or Lasith Malinga go?
  • I am a little out of touch with the ICC schedules. Which countries have international series during the IPL? If I remember correctly, Australia play South Africa through this series, while the top English players will miss at least one week, and the Kiwis are available throughout the season.
  • Chennai hasn't lost any players to retirement, injury or any other factor. How will they fit in Thushara and Freddie?
  • If Graeme Smith has a replacement, who will it be?
  • Will Langer make the starting lineup?
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Some interesting squad combinations are projected here.

While the buzz is heated about the foreign players and the massive pay packages, the Indian angle cannot be ruled out. Let's not forget, only four foreign players a side can take the field, so those seven other players to pick have to be carefully chosen. The teams that did well in the IPL (except Chennai) had used their Indian base quite well, and the team that uses its Indian players best will win the tournament.

Chennai: They were heavily dependent on Haydos, Mike Hussey, Murali, maybe Oram, and later Morkel. When the Aussies and Oram left, they struggled for some time, and got back on track towards the semis. Their batting was strong with Raina and Dhoni, but Patel was out of place, Badri could do little so low down and the other locals were not up to the mark. Their local bowling stocks were, frankly, pathetic, and a weak link in their team. This time, they have the run-machine Vijay and triple centurion Mukund, as well as a returned-to-form Balaji, returned-to-fitness Tyagi and value-added Gony. In case they miss Morkel and Oram, they have the cheaper alternative Joginder Sharma.

Hyderabad: They had it absolutely terrible with locals, and not surprisingly, were at the bottom. Their stars, ironically, were RP Singh, Rohit Sharma and Venugopal Rao, but the performance of the locals was well below par. They've snared Bhuvan Kumar from UP and he may be a surprise, and can contribute more than Bangar, their current local all-rounder. Then again, with no news on the prospective signing, they're stuck with Bangar. Ravi Teja is one who can make it count, but outside of that, they will struggle.

Bangalore: Another team with a weak Indian impact, and not surprisingly, second from last in the table. They have Dravid, Kohli, Praveen Kumar, Goswami and by a long shot, Vinay Kumar, but nobody else. Kallis looked completely misfit last season, so they may need the local replacement Akhil, but he isn't very useful. Kumar's bowling prowess was never in doubt, but the lack of an all-rounder may mean he'll have to be a star with the bat.

Kolkata: They may be based in India's weakest (by some way) zone, but with a lot of money spent, they have good local talent. Ishant Sharma struggled last season; maybe this season will be better. Dinda is fast and furious, but not steady. Other useful players will be Saha, LR Shukla and the captain himself, Ganguly. Bose, kicked out midway last season, will be useful cover, while another victim of downsizing was the prolific Pujara. We wonder, what was SRK thinking? Not surprisingly, they struggled to keep the momentum going and crashed to big defeats a few times.

Punjab: They had good local resources, then Preity and Ness kicked out five of them- which is why I won't forgive those two. Their best bet, after the flamboyant Yuvraj, is the aggressive-yet-smart Irfan Pathan, the useful Chawla and then the mercurial Sreesanth. Among lesser players, they have Powar, in-form opener Sohal, last season's heroes Karan Goel and Uday Kaul, as well as the old warhorse Pankaj Dharmani. They're not perfect, but they have the best among local talents, and would do well not to do away with any of them this time.

Rajasthan: Warney has used his local players best. He's got along so well with them, he'll even speak to them in their language to get his point across. They have the best options after Punjab, and have used their talents best. Hopefully we'll see an encore. To pick a few names, they have Yusuf, Swapnil, Rawat, Kaif, Jadeja, Munaf and Trivedi.

Delhi: We'd (more or less) call this the World Second XI given how they were composed. They too have good local talent, led by Sehwag and Gambhir, but the departure of Dhawan will pinch them. The bowling stock is stronger with Nehra in, and they have Mishra already, but the other options are not so spectacular- Tiwary, Bhatia and Karthik in the middle order, Nanda as spinner, Bhatia, Yomi and Sang as seamers. A lower order of Maharoof (or that Aussie), Mishra, Sang and Yomi will be effective.

Mumbai: The other extreme of two teams mentioned above- they have too many in their squad, enough to start a parallel franchise, maybe for Pune. The coming of Dhawan is a huge boost, as their strength in foreign quota is their bowling, so they need more Indian batsmen. Rahane is scorching the scoreboards, and this should be tapped rightaway. Apart from his blazing form, they can also get in an extra foreign bowler to make a strong team. All-rounder Abhishek Nayar is a good choice, but won't be much of a factor as Bravo is a much better bowler. Dhawal Kulkarni did well last season and also dominated this year's Ranji, but there are much better foreign bowlers at hand. The wicketkeepers, Takawale and Shah, are very relevant, and last but not least, Sachin himself.
 

cricman

International 12th Man
Why did no one pick Shakib?
I think someone will pick him up, there still lots of Pakistani Players who won't play ... He'll get a contract of 100-200K

I'm happy for Mashrafe, Still the future of Bangladeshi PLayers partictipating in these events will depend on How Him and Ashraful will do in the IPL and 600,000 USD is alot.

Smart Investment by Mumbai 75,000 for Ashraful in this format. he'll Carry Drinks for the 1st have of the season tho :laugh:
 

Durham_CCC

School Boy/Girl Captain
I cant believe Luke Wright was up for auction tbh.

Dimi Mascharenas, Bopara >>>>>> Wright.

Also, i'm very surprised Patel did not get picked up.
 

slugger

State Vice-Captain
what happen to stephen fleming, no mention at all in cricinfo teams list. Was he only signed for one year or something.
 

Precambrian

Banned
Clarke should've stayed in - if Duminy is worth $950,000 there are many, many players worth a million or more including Clarke
Duminy's price is ****ing unbelievable. Surely a brain frat on the part of the Ambanis. Clarke would have had no bidders whatsover at such a price.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Given Flintoff hasn't played a lot of late...I'm a little surprised. Although prices paid for players in the IPL shouldn't be used as an indicator I suppose. And if he's fit he's very handy.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Flintoff is the only one close to being worth his actual price. Id pay a lot for a genuine all rounder like him in a 20-20 side let alone his marketable value and everything else that he would bring to the side. Pietersen getting as much as Flintoff? Now thats a joke and a half.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Flintoff is the only one close to being worth his actual price. Id pay a lot for a genuine all rounder like him in a 20-20 side let alone his marketable value and everything else that he would bring to the side. Pietersen getting as much as Flintoff? Now thats a joke and a half.
I'd agree if he was guaranteed to be fully fit.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Flintoff is the only one close to being worth his actual price. Id pay a lot for a genuine all rounder like him in a 20-20 side let alone his marketable value and everything else that he would bring to the side. Pietersen getting as much as Flintoff? Now thats a joke and a half.
It is not if the owner of the Franchise has bigger ambitions, for example market the 'Kingfisher' Brand in UK.
 

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