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roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
Think this Guptill-bashing is a little bit mean-spirited. Can't we be excited that a young guy has scored a ton on his debut?

ODI centuries aren't really in abundance for us - the most any NZ batsman has managed is 16. So it's pretty awesome that a really promising player has started off with one IMO.
Probably was a bit harsh on him but being slightly annoyed at how he got influenced that.
 

roseboy64

Cricket Web Content Updater
Yeah well comes with the territory I guess. Wouldn't mind him in this present WI team. Amazing batspeed.
 

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Good old Auckland. Not a drop of rain all day at Ellerslie Racecourse, and hasn't rained at all at my place over here on the North Shore either.

But when I was at Ellerslie I saw a big black cloud late in the day and thought it was probably in the general area of Eden Park, and unfortunately I was right.
 

James

Cricket Web Owner
Agreed 100%. The ICC should definitely consider having the same sort of concept as the max zones. It may not be traditional cricket, but it encourages the batsmen to hit straight.

35 from 6 and then smashed the last ball past the bowler for 8.
Yeah I agree totally, makes it far more interesting. I see the "Free Hit" rule was in Cricket Max, so the ICC probably got that idea from there. Perhaps they can take the Max idea too ;)

I stand corrected, that's awesome though seeing his score as 43 off 8 balls :laugh:
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
I only caught the West Indian reply; Chris Gayle really does have a thing for newbie bowlers. He took a shine to Dale Steyn last year and Tim Southee seems to always get the treatment from Gayle come rain or shine.
 

Matt52

U19 Vice-Captain
It would be difficult to drop Guptil after this knock. It was very good.

I would rather Ryder return and open with Guptil with McCullum dropping down to the middle order. If Fynn is to continue playing, and I think he may turn into a decent ODI batsman, then it should be at 3. Some time in the ODI team may also help his scoring in tests (although I think he does have the shots for both forms of the game).

Anyway, I would prefer the following:

1. Guptil
2. Ryder
3. Flynn
4. Taylor
5. McCullum
6. Broom
7. Elliott.
8. Vettori
9. Mills.

and two more out of Southee, O'Brien, Martin, Patel etc.
Agree with that. Flynn has good stats at one day domestic level with a strike rate of 90 or so but in internationals he just hasn't even gotten started. Feel sorry for the guy. Hope he doesn't get pigeon holed just as a test player because I don't think he is. I agree that he seems like he needs to bat further up to give him time to bat through the innings, rather than come in and try and play a short hit from the outset kinda innings.

The problem with that is Ryder, McCullum, Guptill, Flynn, and Taylor are all vying for top 4 spots. One of them has to drop down.

TBH I don't know who should do it.

Broom looked good at hitting near the end. Oram would come in for Elliot imo
 

Polo23

International Debutant
Guppy and Broom...the two batsmen i've been calling to get a shot at international level kick arse! And I was there to see it...gold!
 

Halfpast_Yellow

U19 Vice-Captain
Agree with that. Flynn has good stats at one day domestic level with a strike rate of 90 or so but in internationals he just hasn't even gotten started. Feel sorry for the guy. Hope he doesn't get pigeon holed just as a test player because I don't think he is. I agree that he seems like he needs to bat further up to give him time to bat through the innings, rather than come in and try and play a short hit from the outset kinda innings.

The problem with that is Ryder, McCullum, Guptill, Flynn, and Taylor are all vying for top 4 spots. One of them has to drop down.

TBH I don't know who should do it.

Broom looked good at hitting near the end. Oram would come in for Elliot imo
Strange to discard a guy averaging 66.30 with the bat in 4 attempts, with those being a

matchsaving 56 under pressure
THAT runout
23* off 17
30* off 27, another innings that could have won us the game again.

He has also sent down 26.2 overs with an econ of 3.22 and average of 9.88 :blink:

Oram will come in for Broom, or a bowler, and we will/should play

Guptill
Ryder
Styris
Taylor
Oram
Elliot
Broom
McCullum
Vettori
Mills
Southee
12th man Patel

You need to bat deep in modern ODIs, Elliot has shown he can rebuild an innings after top-order failure, and rotate the strike with the hitters at the death.

Bowlers = Mills, Southee, Oram, Vettori, with Ryder/Elliot/Styris sharing the other ten overs easily. Sorry Patel but specialist Batsmen to 9 > having you in the lineup.

Flynn will eventually replace Styris once he is past his useby date.

Only problem with this side is McCullum's ego and shifting him down the order, where he can play his best role of coming in after the 40th over and hitting from ball 1.
 
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Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Guptill
Ryder
Styris
Taylor
Oram
Elliot
Broom
McCullum
Vettori
Mills
Southee
12th man Patel
If you've got Oram and Styris back, you can afford to open with McCullum, so
Ryder, McCullum, Guptill, Taylor, Styris, Oram, Elliot, Vettori, Mills, Southee, Patel
 

Halfpast_Yellow

U19 Vice-Captain
If you've got Oram and Styris back, you can afford to open with McCullum, so
Ryder, McCullum, Guptill, Taylor, Styris, Oram, Elliot, Vettori, Mills, Southee, Patel

Maybe open with McCullum, but I'd still play specialist bat > Patel. Don't see a reason to play a specialist 5th bowler with average statistics when you've got handy parttimers, you're just hampering the side's ability to set or chase large totals, and not adding much if anything to your ability to defend totals.
 

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