Should Matthew Hayden retire?

[Rant0r]

no he looked ****, i was fully expecting him however to ground out a boring hundred and play for another 2 years, didn't happen though, but there is still a second innings

 

[Rant0r]

And I reported your post. Once, twice...I've tried to keep it civil.

it's almost like being in primary school again

 

[Chimpdaddy]

Hayden is definitely not dead weight on the Australian team, i think its unfair to just single out Hayden for not going on and making most of his starts, as the whole Aussie top order have been guilty of the same thing and i think it just sums up the kind of time the whole Australian team is going through atm, i think Hughes or Jaques (but he is injured atm) are the only serious options to replace Hayden, but still Australia ideally would be much better off going into the Ashes series with Matty Hayden as one of their openers.

He scratched his way to 30, and then dragged it onto the stumps. He showed virtually no foot work. If he blasted his way to 30 and then got caught playing a drive, or caught in the deep then I might agree with you. But he didn't. He is in a deep slump, and doesn't look like getting out of it.

The major factor is his age. At 37, he has not got that much cricket left. We've got 2 tough series. It is an excellent opportunity to give young players a shot at playing some of the best teams in the world. I want to see how players like Hughes, Bollinger, Hilfenhaus, MacDonald fair against some top quality sides.

I fail to see why would Australia be better off taking Matty to the Ashes. Maybe you could explain?

-Chimpdaddy-

 

[Richard]

We used to laugh at England for sentimentally clinging to such veterans.

And that was plain wrong-headed too.

 

[R_D]

Yeah Matty looked pretty out of his depth today.... wasn't assured about anything... He wasn't sure about his footwork or any of his shots. Don't remember him hitting too many out of the middle today... For Aus cricket team's sake lets hope he doesn't get a scratchy 100 in 2nd innings and books his ticket to South Africa.

Anyway.. i'm expecting Hayden to announce retirement during this test or just after it either way.

 

[aussie]

Don't want to see Hayden play any more innings like today - I'd rather remember him as the player he was in his prime...

To guys like Pup and Aussie, what are you basing your view that Hayden will be the first man not to age and is going to re-find his best sometime before he turns 40?

I dunno about son. But i don't think we should all be down on Hayden after this one innings as i said in the AUS/SA series thread.

This is the first innings since he return in India, that he looked very rusty no doubt. But before that he was hitting the ball well, got a few good deliveries & god that crazy run-out in adelaide when he could have very well & got a big score.

He comes into this this test with alllllllll this media pressure, plus the hope that "he has got to score a big hundred". He's human he wasn't always going to feel regardless of how mentally tough he his & predictably going to take a cautious approach in this innings.

Fact is for me unlike his last slump during the Ashes, he doesn't look like a walking wicket nor have the demons of his past technical weakness of the swinging back into his pads, working him out technically.

So for me having a Hayden back in form in the backyards of England & SA is much better than a Rogers, Hughes or Jaques. But no doubt Matt needs something big in the second innings or else things will be very bleak for the Big Matt.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Just saw today's dismissal. The shot would be dignified by calling it "ordinary". An ugly thrash with little or no foot movement that took the inside edge and dragged back onto the wicket.

It might be harsh, but when a bloke of 37, no matter how great he has been, consistently fails to produce a score questions about the merit of retaining him are going to continue to be asked.

 

[pup11]

Just saw today's dismissal. The shot would be dignified by calling it "ordinary". An ugly thrash with little or no foot movement that took the inside edge and dragged back onto the wicket.

It might be harsh, but when a bloke of 37, no matter how great he has been, consistently fails to produce a score questions about the merit of retaining him are going to continue to be asked.

The shot looked ugly because he got out, but tbh those are the kind of shots Matty Hayden has played all his career, and as far as the foot work bit is concerned, Hayden never had great foot work to start with, because these sort of things get overlooked when the batsman is doing well and they only surface when he is doing well, anyways i think the basic problem for Hayden atm is that he is probably trying a bit too hard to score that elusive century and that's where he is making the mistake, he just needs to relax and bat normally and the runs too would follow, because as i said earlier, ideally i would like to see a player of his caliber there for the South African and English tours, but its also a fact that the 2nd innings of the SCG test might be his last opportunity to save his career.

 

[Fiji-Bati]

I reckon he'll retire after the Ashes.

 

[biased indian]

I reckon he'll retire after the Ashes.

i reckon he might not be picked for ashes

 

[Midwinter]

Neil Harvey was interviewed on the radio yesterday. He said it was sad watching Hayden bat, like Alan Border he has gone on a year too long.

He was of the opinion that Hayden should not have been playing in Sydney.

 

[Mister Wright]

Neil Harvey was interviewed on the radio yesterday. He said it was sad watching Hayden bat, like Alan Border he has gone on a year too long.

He was of the opinion that Hayden should not have been playing in Sydney.

Neil Harvey likes to think people care about his opinion, but nobody really does. Considering the guy doesn't rate any player who has played the game since he has retired.

 

[susudear]

I hope

Neil Harvey likes to think people care about his opinion, but nobody really does. Considering the guy doesn't rate any player who has played the game since he has retired.

I reckon he'll retire after the Ashes.

This.

 

[howardj]

Hope he stays on and plays for Queensland in the Weet Bix Cup next season.

Nick Kruger, for one, could benefit from a Summer batting with Big Bully.

 

[Midwinter]

Plays in WHAT !!

Go and wash your mouth out boy...

it's SHIELD cricket.

 

[vic_orthdox]

The shot looked ugly because he got out, but tbh those are the kind of shots Matty Hayden has played all his career, and as far as the foot work bit is concerned, Hayden never had great foot work to start with, because these sort of things get overlooked when the batsman is doing well and they only surface when he is doing well, anyways i think the basic problem for Hayden atm is that he is probably trying a bit too hard to score that elusive century and that's where he is making the mistake, he just needs to relax and bat normally and the runs too would follow, because as i said earlier, ideally i would like to see a player of his caliber there for the South African and English tours, but its also a fact that the 2nd innings of the SCG test might be his last opportunity to save his career.

Sorry, but Haydos never got stuck on the crease to a full ball ever.

Look, he may go on and get runs tomorrow, and I hope he does. I think if he does, he's more likely to retire than if he fails.

 

[howardj]

You could see that Kellie Hayden, from the manner of her ovation, knows that the curtain has come down. And come down might I say on a glorious, against-the-odds career. Passed over in junior representative teams as well as the cricket academy, and cruelly branded as Australia's answer to Graham Hick throughout the early part of his career, Hayden has shown incredible mental toughness to rise into the pantheon of Australian openers - up alongside Arthur Morris.

Well played Haydos.

 

[Briony]

In a word - YES!

 

[vic_orthdox]

You could see that Kellie Hayden, from the manner of her ovation, knows that the curtain has come down. And come down might I say on a glorious, against-the-odds career. Passed over in junior representative teams as well as the cricket academy, and cruelly branded as Australia's answer to Graham Hick throughout the early part of his career, Hayden has shown incredible mental toughness to rise into the pantheon of Australian openers - up alongside Arthur Morris.

Well played Haydos.

Yeah, was interesting to see whether he raised the bat as he was coming off. Thought that would be the biggest indication, as the crowd were intimating that they thought it would be the last time that they'd see him bat.

 

[James90]

Hope he stays on and plays for Queensland in the Weet Bix Cup next season.

Nick Kruger, for one, could benefit from a Summer batting with Big Bully.

Yeah, that would be fantastic. Kruger has batted with him a few times for Valleys.

That should be it I'd imagine. Would be surprised if Hayden continued on to South Africa or got picked for that matter.