Do you rate Mitchell Johnson?

[pskov]

Meh. Never did nor was offered "geology" at school so it's not a subject to me. Used to be called "geography" of course.

Geology and Geography are different things. Geology isn't typically offered at schools because it is more of a niche subject.

Unless you are fielding on a gravel track, I'm not sure how much difference between different outfields really has on a ball compared to the pitch. Turf is turf at the end of the day and the ball is just rolling along it rather than impacting harshly against it as on the pitch.

 

[Richard]

The fact that a ball will wear quicker when Mitchel Johnson is bowling.

So how then does it not make sense to say "cricket balls wear quickly whoever's bowling at the current time"?

 

[Richard]

Geology and Geography are different things. Geology isn't typically offered at schools because it is more of a niche subject.

Aye, I know that, just making a comment on the diabolical nature of old-school subject classifications.

Unless you are fielding on a gravel track, I'm not sure how much difference between different outfields really has on a ball compared to the pitch. Turf is turf at the end of the day and the ball is just rolling along it rather than impacting harshly against it as on the pitch.

The type of pitch makes a difference as well, of course, and more often than not the square and outfield will be made of similar stuff. An outfield that roughs-up a ball quickly will generally be accompanied by a pitch that does likewise. However, the outfield certainly makes an impact. A good lush outfield on good-quality turf most certainly helps look after the ball.

 

[social]

If cricket balls actually lasted remotely well at the current time, maybe.

Kookaburras are just crap balls really though. Hate the things. And Australian outfields tend to rough cricket-balls up more than most countries as well.

Kookaburras are basically a round rock with no seam and are infinitely worse to bowl with than say a Duke

As for the outfield comment, absolutely incorrect as every Oz ground has an outfield like carpet

 

[pup11]

Kookaburras are basically a round rock with no seam and are infinitely worse to bowl with than say a Duke

As for the outfield comment, absolutely incorrect as every Oz ground has an outfield like carpet

Kookaburras basically are balls that help the bowlers for 7 or 8 overs at the most and then the seam just sinks into the leather and as you said it just ends up being a round rock, but i think Richard is right with comment over the Kookaburra bowl tending to get roughed up more quickly in Australia as compared to other places, but that's not necessarily due to the nature of the outfields there, but it has got to do more with hard abrasive nature of the Aussie pitches nowadays.

 

[Redbacks]

Well the Advertiser have labeled him the million dollar prince So he must be good

 

[Richard]

As for the outfield comment, absolutely incorrect as every Oz ground has an outfield like carpet

Well Kookaburras generally last slightly better in the UK than Australia, so therefore UK outfields are better. Nonetheless, Dukes are more commonly used over here and they last better as well - in addition to the fact that when they deteriorate, they reverse-swing more easily than a Kooka does.

 

[JimmyGS]

So how then does it not make sense to say "cricket balls wear quickly whoever's bowling at the current time"?

Ok, analogy time.

Brett Lee is a Ferrari. He goes places fast.

Mitchel Johnson is a rocket car. He goes places extremely fast.

Sure, it's true to say that you get places fast either way, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ****ING POINT.

 

[Richard]

Here's another analogy. A ferrari breaks the speed limit with exceptional ease. A rocket car breaks it with exceptional, exceptional ease. The one happens so easily, however, that the fact that the other happens even easier isn't really all that important. It's a problem, in the way of a hefty fine, for you either way.

If with Lee bowling the ball's got ruffed-up within 20 overs and with Johnson it's done it within 11, it's really not that much of an issue. You've got a huge number of overs to bowl with a nothing ball regardless, which is quite a problem.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

 

[Richard]

Try the latter. It'll do you good.

 

[HMas]

no

 

[JimmyGS]

If with Lee bowling the ball's got ruffed-up within 20 overs and with Johnson it's done it within 11, it's really not that much of an issue. You've got a huge number of overs to bowl with a nothing ball regardless, which is quite a problem.

Wait, what? 9 overs isn't an issue?! Wow...

 

[Ikki]

Here's another analogy. A ferrari breaks the speed limit with exceptional ease. A rocket car breaks it with exceptional, exceptional ease. The one happens so easily, however, that the fact that the other happens even easier isn't really all that important. It's a problem, in the way of a hefty fine, for you either way.

If with Lee bowling the ball's got ruffed-up within 20 overs and with Johnson it's done it within 11, it's really not that much of an issue. You've got a huge number of overs to bowl with a nothing ball regardless, which is quite a problem.

...just when I thought I'd leave you be, you pull me back in.

 

[Evilhoopler]

well after 8/61 you.ve got to rate him well. hes doing sumthing right

 

[Redbacks]

He might have to front up Friday with a lot of overs, hectic schedule for the bowlers in this series

 

[Evilhoopler]

the south africa australia series will be very tough for bowlers with the matches so close 2gether

 

[Richard]

...just when I thought I'd leave you be, you pull me back in.

Spamming the forum by posting useless material again I see.

 

[Richard]

Wait, what? 9 overs isn't an issue?! Wow...

Given that it's a percentage of 80... no.

60 overs with a ball that does sod-all is extremely difficult bowling; so is 69. The difference is inconsiderable.

 

[Uppercut]

Given that it's a percentage of 80... no.

60 overs with a ball that does sod-all is extremely difficult bowling; so is 69. The difference is inconsiderable.

It's a percentage of 20. 11 overs to strike while the ball is doing something isn't much, 20 overs is is a significantly better opportunity.